Yes, it's time for Eakins

[moon111]

The 80's Oilers were pretty good.  Maybe the Leafs can manage to get Glen Sather?

 

[losveratos]

Now that the frustration from last night has subsided (seeing that same useless PP over and over pushed me over the edge) I think I'm ready to cut Carlyle a bit of slack.

Even though we have been frustrated with the line choices and ice times for a while, it is only a 2 game losing streak after all.

That said, I think it is on Carlyle to do something to mix it up and keep this skid from extending.

If I see that same stupid PP out there tonight, the same 5-5 lines with the '3rd' line that is actually producing still getting few minutes, I'm going to lose it all over again.

Well... everything stayed pretty much the same. But they got 3 goals from the first line and not the 3rd line. So does that mean you've lost it or you didn't lose it?

 

[ZBBM]

Are people really talking about firing Carlyle...already? :

Darn tootin'.  Bring on the Big D.

 

[Scrif]

I'm usually the one to start these '911' threads, but this one, omg! We're lynching Carlyle already? Really? We're winning!

Don't get me wrong, I admire what Eakins has done at the AHL level, but its at the AHL level. Carlyle has a CUP RING and a +500 career winning record AND a +500 record with the 2013 Leafs.

Why should we let go a Winning NHL Coach?

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I like Eakins. He'll coach in the NHL someday soon. But to switch to him anytime soon seems over the top. Like the players, Carlyle deserves more of a chance to prove what he can do with this group.

If Eakins was Nonis' first choice, he ought to go to him sooner rather than later, with no apologies.  Eakins isn't going to last much longer in the AHL, and I would hate to see another team hire him away from us.  He profiles much better for a team that is (or ought to be) undergoing, FINALLY, a complete rebuild -- it's the same dynamic as running the Marlies. 

I don't dislike Carlyle.  He's miles ahead of Wilson and he'll get another gig, easily.  I just don't think we need any administrative leftovers from Burke.  Getting Eakins in here goes hand in hand with getting rid of Phaneuf, Kessel, Komi, etc. etc. and starting over.  Clean slate, and whatnot.

Leafs always do things half-assed backwards.  The GM should pick his own coach, not have to keep the one from the last GM.

Burke comes in and has Wilson whom he didn't hire.  Sticks with him for some unknown reason (maybe pressure from ownership?) and then eventually fires him when it's too late.

Nonis takes over, has been on record as an Eakins supporter but now is stuck with Carlyle because Burke hired him.  Sure it's bad to be paying so many coaches, but if you really want this to be Nonis's team he has to be able to hand pick his coach.  So basically I'm agreeing with you, even if the optics of firing Carlyle would make the Leafs look stupid.

Who says he has to stick with him?  It doesn't make the Leafs half-assed backwards.  As just one example, Mike Gillis kept Dave Nonis' hire as coach when he took over from him (Vigneault), and they seem to be doing alright as a franchise.  I'm sure Carlyle would be gone if Nonis really wanted him gone.

 

[Champ Kind]

No to pile on and react to an obvious hot streak for the team, but I think Carlyle as much as anything else is responsible for the team's early good play.  Really, seeing the way Carlyle operates makes me thin - retrospectively at least - of how inferior Wilson coached in the last few seasons.  Would Wilson have sat $8.5M in defensive salaries?  Would he have had the conviction to play Orr with MacArthur and Kadri?  Would he have played 3 Marlie defensemen? 

By the way, these are rhetorical questions.

 

[Kin]

No to pile on and react to an obvious hot streak for the team, but I think Carlyle as much as anything else is responsible for the team's early good play.  Really, seeing the way Carlyle operates makes me thin - retrospectively at least - of how inferior Wilson coached in the last few seasons.  Would Wilson have sat $8.5M in defensive salaries?  Would he have had the conviction to play Orr with MacArthur and Kadri?  Would he have played 3 Marlie defensemen? 

By the way, these are rhetorical questions.

To be fair to Wilson, and boy do I not anticipate using that sentence too often, I do think the decision to sit high priced veterans or make radically different line-up choices are things that are a ton easier to do when your boss isn't the GM who brought those guys to the team.