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NHL exploring expansion to Texas

The expansion fee being sought is $2 billion per team. Add two teams, that's about $120 mil to each of the 32 teams. It is not a complete windfall because they're paying the existing teams for an ongoing share of league revenues - the piece of revenue pie each team gets will be smaller with expansion. But you can see the financial incentive ownership is looking at.

I was curious to look at the map to see if they were trying to improve their broadcast footprint in the US. Maybe Auston or Houston does but it isn't obvious to me - I don't know enough about it. That was a key part of what the big fight to keep a team in Arizona was about.

Bettman isn't stupid. There will be a pretty good business case for whatever they undertake. The most severe noticeable dilution of talent that I recall is when they went from 6 teams to 12 and the WHA started up. Back in the 60s and before, hockey players had to have second jobs to make ends meet. Going from 32 to 34 teams now will be nothing comparable to that.

When I was at the Marlies AHL playoff game a week ago or so, I felt that a number of the hockey players I was looking at could probably crack the original six rosters of the 60s. They're bigger, faster, stronger, smarter, more skilled, better equipped and better coached. There wasn't a slug on the ice for either team. They all had pretty sound basic skills. The play in the last two periods of the game I saw was very good quality. Every year I go to see an AHL game, they seem to improve.

I think the bigger threat to the quality of hockey players is the climate getting warmer and reducing natural ice. I played a lot of hockey on natural ice when I was growing up. Now, you can't keep a natural ice rink through the winter where we live. We used to play for hours on free natural ice. How can one do that today when they have to rent artificial ice by the hour?
 
The expansion fee being sought is $2 billion per team. Add two teams, that's about $120 mil to each of the 32 teams. It is not a complete windfall because they're paying the existing teams for an ongoing share of league revenues - the piece of revenue pie each team gets will be smaller with expansion. But you can see the financial incentive ownership is looking at.

I was curious to look at the map to see if they were trying to improve their broadcast footprint in the US. Maybe Auston or Houston does but it isn't obvious to me - I don't know enough about it. That was a key part of what the big fight to keep a team in Arizona was about.

Bettman isn't stupid. There will be a pretty good business case for whatever they undertake. The most severe noticeable dilution of talent that I recall is when they went from 6 teams to 12 and the WHA started up. Back in the 60s and before, hockey players had to have second jobs to make ends meet. Going from 32 to 34 teams now will be nothing comparable to that.

When I was at the Marlies AHL playoff game a week ago or so, I felt that a number of the hockey players I was looking at could probably crack the original six rosters of the 60s. They're bigger, faster, stronger, smarter, more skilled, better equipped and better coached. There wasn't a slug on the ice for either team. They all had pretty sound basic skills. The play in the last two periods of the game I saw was very good quality. Every year I go to see an AHL game, they seem to improve.

I think the bigger threat to the quality of hockey players is the climate getting warmer and reducing natural ice. I played a lot of hockey on natural ice when I was growing up. Now, you can't keep a natural ice rink through the winter where we live. We used to play for hours on free natural ice. How can one do that today when they have to rent artificial ice by the hour?
There's a difference between competent guys and stars though. You probably won't see the Sens when they expanded into the league but I'd rather have more talent on fewer teams than less talent on more teams. At what point does expansion become unwieldly and where does it end? 40 teams? 50 teams? The chances of your team winning are hard enough and we want to make it harder? We want to make it so a significant portion of NHL fans never see their team win a championship? You have to draw the line somewhere and I hope it's not just "expand until it's no longer profitable" regardless of whether it is a benefit to the league and sport or not.
 
There's a difference between competent guys and stars though. You probably won't see the Sens when they expanded into the league but I'd rather have more talent on fewer teams than less talent on more teams. At what point does expansion become unwieldly and where does it end? 40 teams? 50 teams? The chances of your team winning are hard enough and we want to make it harder? We want to make it so a significant portion of NHL fans never see their team win a championship? You have to draw the line somewhere and I hope it's not just "expand until it's no longer profitable" regardless of whether it is a benefit to the league and sport or not.

One could argue your point is well taken in that after going from 6 to 12 teams plus the WHA, the league had to tap into Europe to recover top end talent. For a while after expansion, the hockey got pretty bad and was part of the reason for the Broad Street Bullies. Team Canada '72 opened our eyes that other countries had players that could star in the game. Once we saw the Russians and Borje Salming, the flood gates opened. Not only that: we learned from each other so the game and how it was played got better.

If they never expanded further, as a fan, it wouldn't bother me. The appeal of best on best certainly supports your position.

But there is a saying in business that you either grow or you die so some growth is probably for the greater good of the business of hockey. Unless one is privy to the real numbers and facts, it is pretty hard to say much credibly in detail about the business direction. A lot of the growth more recently seems to be in media - everyone around the world can watch NHL games now. So the growth doesn't always have to be via expansion. We haven't been seeing a string of bankruptcies like we had so the CBA and their management has improved on that.

With 32 teams, a random fan cheering for one of those 32 teams for 82 years (rough life expectancy) has the generic odds of 7% that they'll never seen their team win. So you are right in that adding more teams raises those miserable odds.
 
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