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2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread

Saint Nik said:
I understand scratching Bautista for McCoy if Bautista wasn't feeling well but does it make any sense at all to bat McCoy leadoff and slide Escobar to third?
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He's a rookie, but I'm not a big fan of Farrell's work.  He makes a lot of mistakes and I'm not really seeing much in terms of player development this year.
 
L K said:
Saint Nik said:
I understand scratching Bautista for McCoy if Bautista wasn't feeling well but does it make any sense at all to bat McCoy leadoff and slide Escobar to third?
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He's a rookie, but I'm not a big fan of Farrell's work.  He makes a lot of mistakes and I'm not really seeing much in terms of player development this year.
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Not sure I understand Hill leading off today but hey, when your pitching staff only gives up one hit, I suppose it doesn't matter who's leading off much.
 
Wow, outstanding pitching performance by Perez and Janssen today.

Good thing - Jays with another poor offensive showing, 1 run on 4 hits. Most games that equals a loss. Two runs and 13 hits in their last 30 innings of work, I think.
 
Jason Kubel, Jim Thome and Carlos Pena were all placed on trade waivers today. With Lind potentially being out for a while with a wrist injury (no broken bones, but, still couple be a while before he's feeling well enough to get in the line-up), I can see the Jays trying to work something out to get one of these guys on the cheap - most likely Pena, who the Cubs would probably part with for next to nothing just to get out of the $6M they still owe him for the rest of the season.
 
A change of scenery could be just what Aaron Hill needs.  Very sad to see John McDonald go as well.  Absolutely seems like a good team guy and always treat to watch on the field.  Was hoping he'd make is way in to the coaching staff one day.  I guess it could still happen down the road.
 
Deebo said:
Reports have Hill and Macdonald going to Arizona for Kelly Johnson.
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Don't pay too much attention to baseball to know if thats a good deal, all I know is Hill used to be good and hasn't the last year or two and MacDonald has been good defensively, not sure if he is this year. How is Kelly Johnson? Good rumoured trade for the Jays?
 
Perhaps because Hill's option wasn't picked up, he'll become a free agent, no? Maybe the Jays can't/won't sign him.

At a glance they look like pretty similar players.
 
TML fan said:
Perhaps because Hill's option wasn't picked up, he'll become a free agent, no? Maybe the Jays can't/won't sign him.

At a glance they look like pretty similar players.
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They still could have picked up options on Hill at the end of the year.
 
I'd like to keep John McDonald around for Lawrie's benefit... and some of the other young infilelders in the system too.
 
Not really sure I like or get this deal.

If it was Hill for Johnson it might get a meh from me, but the fact that Johnny Mac had to be thrown in kind of sucks.
 
Newbury said:
Not really sure I like or get this deal.

If it was Hill for Johnson it might get a meh from me, but the fact that Johnny Mac had to be thrown in kind of sucks.
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So it's official then?... and I agree... unless of course we re-sign Johnson whi is a FA.
 
All 3 guys are at the press conference, and they are all talking very openly about the possibility of returning to the Jays next year.
 
Johnson's got better career offensive numbers in large part due to a 24 point edge in career OBP. Hill has marginally better defensive numbers. Both guys, though, are having a crummy year.

It looks pretty simple. Hill and Johnson are relatively comparable this year but Hill is making more. The D-Backs, on their way to the playoffs, add a useful bench piece in McDonald while the Jays save a little money.
 
Saint Nik said:
Johnson's got better career offensive numbers in large part due to a 24 point edge in career OBP. Hill has marginally better defensive numbers. Both guys, though, are having a crummy year.

It looks pretty simple. Hill and Johnson are relatively comparable this year but Hill is making more. The D-Backs, on their way to the playoffs, add a useful bench piece in McDonald while the Jays save a little money.
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... but shouldn't have we got an asset that extends beyond this year? I don't see a point unless AA has something confirmed at 2B for next year... and as much as I like Hech as a prospectm it ain't him.
 
Deebo said:
I don't think this deal is very impactful, 3 pending free agents.
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Didn't we have Hill for 2 more years? I was operationg on that assumption. If not, well, then that changes my opinion.
 
Floyd said:
Deebo said:
I don't think this deal is very impactful, 3 pending free agents.
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Didn't we have Hill for 2 more years? I was operationg on that assumption. If not, well, then that changes my opinion.
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There were pricey option years - $8M, $8M, $10M.
 
Deebo said:
Floyd said:
Deebo said:
I don't think this deal is very impactful, 3 pending free agents.
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Didn't we have Hill for 2 more years? I was operationg on that assumption. If not, well, then that changes my opinion.
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There were pricey option years - $8M, $8M, $10M.
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I know but my point remains... as much as we all soured on Hill, is it smart to deal away your only option at that position for next year?
 
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