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Busta Reims said:
I have a soloution for the SBs... Just add them to the TBs in one's SLG% and presto... OPSASB (adjusted for SBs.)
2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread
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I have a soloution for the SBs... Just add them to the TBs in one's SLG% and presto... OPSASB (adjusted for SBs.)
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Saint Nik said:
Yeah, that's an interesting dilema... Not much you can do about park factors and such.
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hockeyfan1 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCMA_5nK_G0
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Saint Nik said:
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Saint Nik said:
Which is so flawed I think... Like I mean, weather is a huge factor and take Colorado for example... Are we measuring the stats on days when the balls are being dried out in a humidor or not? Who knows what some other parks are up to.
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Floyd said:
Well, park factors are looked at over a period of years so, assuming global warming isn't wreaking things already, weather is going to remain pretty stable from city to city and will factor into offensive performance at the various home parks.
Likewise, assuming they dry out the balls to a consistent extent over a period of a few years then Colorado's park factor will account for the different conditions.
Park Factors
It's a math heavy read but a worthwhile one. Park factors tend to be pretty sound.
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Saint Nik said:
Good grief. I threw in the towel at step 3.
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The most recent Elias estimations have been release at MLBTR, and, post-trade, Johnson is a borderline Type A in the AL and Hill is barely a Type B in the NL. They could both easily drop in rank before the season ends, but, with Johnson, the Jays are at least guaranteed an opportunity at a compensation pick - it's pretty much impossible for him to not at least end up as a Type B. Hill, on the other hand . . . if he doesn't have a very good 6 weeks in Arizona/very good playoffs if they qualify, I'm not sure he'll even get a major league contract this winter.
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Busta Reims said:
So, should we fail to (or choose not to) re-sign Johnson, it boils down to trading 6 weeks + a post season's worth of McDonald for a pick.... and McDonald is a virtual slam dunk to re-sign with us anyway. I guess there's not much to dislike about the trade. Again though, I just wish we knew who was going to be at 2B going forward.
Escobar-Johnson... where have I seen that DP combo before? 
I really like both guys. KJ actually has a solid eye and some good power for a second baseman. He suffers from some inconsistency and for whatever reason is having a pretty lousy year (well, other than power). I think he can be a .280 guy and take some walks so it's a nice low risk move imo. AA is buying KJ cheap (which seems to be AA's MO). I'd certainly have made this move also.
Changing subjects here... For NL ROY... out of Freddie Freeman and Craig Kimbrel. Who would you pick? (Nik, remember the Freeman discussion we had before? Well I was clearly wrong).
I really like both guys. KJ actually has a solid eye and some good power for a second baseman. He suffers from some inconsistency and for whatever reason is having a pretty lousy year (well, other than power). I think he can be a .280 guy and take some walks so it's a nice low risk move imo. AA is buying KJ cheap (which seems to be AA's MO). I'd certainly have made this move also.
Changing subjects here... For NL ROY... out of Freddie Freeman and Craig Kimbrel. Who would you pick? (Nik, remember the Freeman discussion we had before? Well I was clearly wrong).
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Erndog said:
I'll be honest, I don't remember it at all so I don't know if you're being sarcastic.
Kimbrel's WAR(using BR's formula) is 2.9, Freeman's is 1.6 and I'm inclined to agree with that. Vance Worley is at 2.4 and, all things being equal, I'd be inclined to go starter over reliever so to me it's more of a Worley-Kimbrel discussion right now.
Saint Nik said:
Was a real convo. Too bad we can't go back to look at it. I basically said I was a little more tempered with my expectations of Freeman than many Braves fans. We even quickly discussed a Freeman vs. Dominic Brown as well (in which, you were wrong
).Anyways, Worley's certainly been great but I have a hard time giving ROY to a #4/5 starter on such a good team. I guess it's not his fault he is behind all those guys but still something to be said for the everyday player (Freeman) compared to the once a week guy (Worley) or the every second day but an inning guy (Kimbrel).
I think it's pretty close between those 3 and will probably come down to September.
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Erndog said:
Personally, I've never thought that the ROY should have anything to do with a player's teammates, good or bad. It should strictly be an evaluation of a guy in his rookie season and how he's played.
The issue with Freeman is that I don't think he's separated himself from the pack in terms of the other rookie position players having good years. His 1.6 WAR has him tied with Danny Espinosa and Wilson Ramos and Darwin Barney is just behind that. I think Collmenter is the #3 guy with Kimbrel and Worley right now.
Saint Nik said:
You may be right. I'd have Freeman as #2, maybe 3, but as of right now I'd have Kimbrel as the ROY. He's having a historic season really. He's having the type of year a closer would normally get some Cy Young votes for let alone ROY.
He hasn't given up an Earned Run since June 11. A span of 33 appearances (32 2/3rd innings). He will likely end the year with 50+ saves, and close to 150 strikeouts. Those are some pretty absurd numbers for anyone let alone a rookie.
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All 4 of the Diamondback's starting infielders tonight are former Blue Jays.
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Jays defeated Kansas City Royals 4-3 Wednesday night, at home. Jos? Bautista with his league-leading 37th homerun, and Brett Lawrie with his fourth homerun this year, that provided the winning run. Jays much-improved starter Ricky Romero who did not finish, gave way to Jesse Litsch and Casey Jannsen, before Frank Francisco got the save.
Source: Sportsnet
Source: Sportsnet
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3 slams for the Yanks tonight... Apparently an new record for a single game.