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2011 Blue Jays/MLB Thread

Saint Nik said:
bustaheims said:
The Jays have apparently signed Francisco Cordero to a 1 year, $4.5M contract.

Man, going from no closer to a closer controversy. That's something.

Yeah. I mean, I like what they've done with the bullpen this offseason. I just wish they'd address their two biggest needs - a #2 starter and another impact bat.
 
Because bullpen help is usually so sought after at the deadline you can't help but be a little interested in seeing how this plays out. Obviously a team that isn't close to contending isn't going to get fixed by a bunch of relievers on one year deals but Oliver and Cordero could both be very interesting trade chips come July.
 
Saint Nik said:
bustaheims said:
The Jays have apparently signed Francisco Cordero to a 1 year, $4.5M contract.

Man, going from no closer to a closer controversy. That's something.
Well it looks like Francisco was signed to be the set up man, which is good because frankly I was a little concerned about who would take over the eighth inning duties.

Now, we just have to worry about the other 7 innings.
 
#1PilarFan said:
Saint Nik said:
bustaheims said:
The Jays have apparently signed Francisco Cordero to a 1 year, $4.5M contract.

Man, going from no closer to a closer controversy. That's something.
Well it looks like Francisco was signed to be the set up man, which is good because frankly I was a little concerned about who would take over the eighth inning duties.

Now, we just have to worry about the other 7 innings.

Francisco is now a Met.
 
#1PilarFan said:
Well it looks like Francisco was signed to be the set up man

Yeah, I caught that too. That said, how many bad outings does Santos have to have before the dopes out there call for an "established" closer to take over the role?
 
Sarge said:
I smell another future draft pick...

With the way the new CBA is set up, that seems highly unlikely. The whole Type A/Type B thing is gone, and only big money free agents return picks now.
 
bustaheims said:
Sarge said:
I smell another future draft pick...

With the way the new CBA is set up, that seems highly unlikely. The whole Type A/Type B thing is gone, and only big money free agents return picks now.

Right... Forgot about that. Still, he could be of value at the deadline.
 
Sarge said:
Right... Forgot about that. Still, he could be of value at the deadline.

That's a distinct possibility, and is almost certainly a part of AA's strategy of signing a bunch of relievers to 1 year deals.
 
Apparently the Tigers are entertaining switching Cabrera back to third base. So much for defense being the new market inefficiency.
 
Potvin29 said:
That sarcastic insult of the Jays had such potential too.  :(

Eh, it still works. Given the realities of Uehara's limited NTC there's no way for him to block a trade to Baltimore and we know he was on board with a trade to Texas.
 
Saint Nik said:
#1PilarFan said:
Well it looks like Francisco was signed to be the set up man

Yeah, I caught that too. That said, how many bad outings does Santos have to have before the dopes out there call for an "established" closer to take over the role?
With Jays fans? One.

But, given that Santos is expected to be here for the long term and Cordero is here on a one year deal I imagine management will be considerably more patient.
 
Recent update on Jays pitcher McDowan at 2012 Dunedin training camp...

McGowan certainly has good reason to relish his newfound normalcy.

...he arrived at camp completely healthy, without an injury to rehab or in need of a delicate buildup process, for the first time since 2008.

...he?s just another strong-armed hurler fighting for a job, with a provisional hold on the fifth spot in an uncertain rotation that can dearly use his full return to form.

"He?s being treated like a normal starter," said pitching coach Bruce Walton.

The lingering question of course... is can it really last this time?

...the feeling that his shoulder is a ticking time bomb, moving steadily toward an undetermined detonation point, remains hard to shake.

At this point it?s impossible to know whether he?s actually in the clear, or whether his arm is going to blow for the final time, and all the Blue Jays can realistically do is keep running him out on the mound and hope he holds up (particularly because he is out of options and can?t be sent to the minors without passing through waivers).

...the next six weeks with the Blue Jays planning to use 10 starters to open the pre-season.

Over that time, McGowan will find out more about what kind of pitcher he is now, while Farrell and the coaching staff will get a read on what he?s got to offer.

Any time a pitcher goes through what he?s gone through, you?re going to go through a little bit of a learning curve again to pitch effectively with the stuff you have now versus pre-injury,..." said Farrell.

"The fact that we have more information about him, gives us a starting point this camp head and shoulders above where we were a year ago with him."

From:  http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/2012/02/21/davidi_dustin_mcgowan_bluejays_camp/
 
Hopefully Cecil has a much better season now that he's in camp 33 pounds lighter than last season.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/the-tao-of-a-slim-blue-jay-brett-cecil/article2344227/
 
Potvin29 said:
Hopefully Cecil has a much better season now that he's in camp 33 pounds lighter than last season.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/the-tao-of-a-slim-blue-jay-brett-cecil/article2344227/

Eh. As Mickey Lolich once said, you don't run the ball across the plate.
 
Saint Nik said:
Potvin29 said:
Hopefully Cecil has a much better season now that he's in camp 33 pounds lighter than last season.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/baseball/the-tao-of-a-slim-blue-jay-brett-cecil/article2344227/

Eh. As Mickey Lolich once said, you don't run the ball across the plate.

I'm sure it's different for different players, I'm just going by what they say in the article:

He said trainers and coaches showed him a video after the season that ?measured the biomechanics? and the ?speed of my body parts? throughout the pitching motion.

?My legs were skipping the core and not giving me the torque needed from the core,? Cecil said.

Being overweight factored into that.

Hopefully they are correct in pinpointing that as a factor.
 
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