GhostofPotvin29
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah I'd loov if he was recalled but for now it's probably petter if he stays on the Marlies, more viktories down there too.
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Yeah I'd loov if he was recalled but for now it's probably petter if he stays on the Marlies, more viktories down there too.
Highlander
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Supposedly Grandberg has been the best Marlie D man so far this year.
Marlies reporter on the 3 Swedish defencemen this season:
Bullfrog said:
The 3 years is looking pretty brutal, now I'm starting to wonder how much stock we should put in his performance this season. He started training camp late and was recovering from his broken leg all summer so he obviously wasn't up to speed when the season started. He looked bad but I think there was a bit of a stretch where his play improved. Then he allegedly suffered an injury on November 1st and played with it up until a couple of weeks ago. So he's probably played 90% of the season not at 100%.
GhostofPotvin29
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CarltonTheBear said:
Anthony Petrielli touched on this in his last "Leafs Notebook" on January 22:
http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2015/01/22/leafs-notebook-january-22/
LuncheonMeat
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Two young guys up and Phaneuf not at practice today.
TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8)
Highlander
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I heard he got stuck in the Tropics?The Island needed a rather large Orange Cone and the Pylon was available.
GhostofPotvin29
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Chris said:
Basically he's getting fortunate. The on-ice SV% when he is on the ice at 5v5 this season is approximately .955.
Potvin29 said:
I can buy "fortunate" for a limited number of games, but 39? That's stretching it.
That must mean that Gardiner, Kessel, JVR and Bozak are just incredibly unfortunate. Or, maybe...Robidas is doing something that makes the shots taken less dangerous while he is out there. I admit I haven't watched enough games this year to really be able to say one way or the other.
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Chris said:
39 games isn't really that much. War-on-ice.com has numbers going back to 2002. The .955 is the highest it's ever been in Robidas' career. The next closest would be an on-ice SV% of .927 from his 2002-03 season in 64 games.
So either at age 37 going on 38, after breaking his leg twice and being injured this season, he's suddenly figured out how to be much, much better than he ever has in his career at preventing goals, or he's been the beneficiary of some unsustainable goaltending when he's been on the ice.
Consider Phaneuf last season. Through December 31 his on-ice SV% was .962 - it finished at .932 (also the highest of his career). He led the team in +/- by the end of December 2013 at +13 but ended the season +2. That's not the best example (I AM "working") but it illustrates that a player can have good fortunate through a portion of the season which can inflate certain numbers and those will likely 'correct' over the course of a season, even if the player doesn't necessarily do anything drastically different to their game.
I'll have to take a look at that site (war-on-ice)...sounds interesting. Numbers alone, though, can be misleading. There's no way I can believe that over the course of 39 games, 15 minutes per game, that "luck" or "good fortune" can account for his +/- number and relatively high save percentage. Perhaps who he was paired with, which lines he was out with, there's got to be something other than "good fortune".
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Chris said:
I don't mean to say that it 100% accounts for it, as he obviously has some say in it, but if it's out of line with his career numbers it suggests that it may be a run of fortunate goaltending behind him. For instance - if there's a great chance when Robidas is on the ice that is saved but when Gardiner is on the ice it isn't saved it's not really either player's fault. Sometimes you'll be bailed out for mistakes, sometimes you'll be on for goals you didn't deserve to be on for. Outside of teams getting elite, elite goaltending or the top defensive D, it's very hard to maintain an on-ice SV% that high. Since 07-08 only 5 D have done that over a season with 4 being from Boston & Anaheim.
He might be doing something to help it out - but then what would have changed in all those years before where he didn't have an on-ice SV% that high behind him? How would it suddenly jump at this age with this injury history? It was pretty accepted that he didn't look good out there for most of this season, but these numbers would say he did look good - so what accounts for that discrepancy?
I just think it's unrealistic at his age that he's doing something different now to help keep goals out to that degree and think the more likely reason is his numbers are being propped up by getting some elite goaltending while he's on the ice for whatever reason. And hey, I could be wrong.
That's a fair assessment. The numbers (which I haven't looked at much, admittedly) are interesting and provocative. I just know that when I've watched games this year, I haven't really noticed Robidas very much (which I take to mean, he's not doing anything really bad). As opposed to noticing how often players sweep right around Phaneuf as if he wasn't there, or how often the top line gets hemmed in its own end for entire shifts.
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There was talk of Franson potentially having an injured hip.