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2015 NHL Entry Draft

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Highlander said:
So if we trade Kessel for the Devils pick, then we draft Marner whom is similar to Kessel and what have the 5th or 6th pick as well, I would pull the trigger on that at this point and I was a huge Phil fan, but don't think he is coachable, he won't fit in with Babs.
And someone very good will be available at 5 or 6

I doubt NJ would give up their pick for Kessel
 
New Jersey picks 6th, since it seems to be an issue. It's a pretty important distinction with a clear cut top 5.
 
Nik the Trik said:
New Jersey picks 6th, since it seems to be an issue. It's a pretty important distinction with a clear cut top 5.

Not so clear Top 5:

ISS:
3-Strome
4-Crouse
5-Hannafin

NHL Central:
3-Hannafin
4-Strome
5-Crouse

McKeens:
3-Hannafin
4-Marner
5-Provorov
 
Frank E said:
Not so clear Top 5:

ISS:
3-Strome
4-Crouse
5-Hannafin

NHL Central:
3-Hannafin
4-Strome
5-Crouse

McKeens:
3-Hannafin
4-Marner
5-Provorov

Not a lot of Crouse or Provorov talk around these parts.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
I suppose there are those valid social and cultural generational divisions.  I always took it in the purely biological sense, of the general average age of people when they reproduce to make the next generation, a time frame of roughly 20-25 years.

21 years to be precise. Or 23 if you only start counting from when Riker grew the beard, like a sensible person.

+1
 
I'd actually like to hear/read more about what the Leafs ought to do with pick 24. That's the hard one. Outside the top 8-10, I'm a bit hazy on who's available. Everything written in the scouting reports is obfuscatingly positive.
 
herman said:
I'd actually like to hear/read more about what the Leafs ought to do with pick 24. That's the hard one. Outside the top 8-10, I'm a bit hazy on who's available. Everything written in the scouting reports is obfuscatingly positive.

Kind of tough to have much to say on that when there's really no way to know who will be available there. I mean, it's unlikely but everyone ranked from, like, #12 to #50 might be an option.
 
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
I'd actually like to hear/read more about what the Leafs ought to do with pick 24. That's the hard one. Outside the top 8-10, I'm a bit hazy on who's available. Everything written in the scouting reports is obfuscatingly positive.

Kind of tough to have much to say on that when there's really no way to know who will be available there. I mean, it's unlikely but everyone ranked from, like, #12 to #50 might be an option.

Best not to get too attached now to any options then, eh?
 
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
I'd actually like to hear/read more about what the Leafs ought to do with pick 24. That's the hard one. Outside the top 8-10, I'm a bit hazy on who's available. Everything written in the scouting reports is obfuscatingly positive.

Kind of tough to have much to say on that when there's really no way to know who will be available there. I mean, it's unlikely but everyone ranked from, like, #12 to #50 might be an option.

Best not to get too attached now to any options then, eh?

By all means get attached to ideas but there is just far too much that will happen between now and then to determine who will be available and what the Leafs do with that pick.  I mean if the guy the Leafs want is gone at 24 and the player they really want is likely to go closer to 30 they may trade down and get a 2nd or 3rd round pick to go along with the 28-30th overall pick for all we know.
 
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
herman said:
I'd actually like to hear/read more about what the Leafs ought to do with pick 24. That's the hard one. Outside the top 8-10, I'm a bit hazy on who's available. Everything written in the scouting reports is obfuscatingly positive.

Kind of tough to have much to say on that when there's really no way to know who will be available there. I mean, it's unlikely but everyone ranked from, like, #12 to #50 might be an option.

Best not to get too attached now to any options then, eh?

No, I mean, there are definitely things to think about. Some people have talked about Oliver Kylington being available and he's pretty well thought of(although the sense I get is he's rising on people's boards). Daniel Sprong is a name I've seen thrown around in that range as one of those small-ish but high ceiling types.

But there's just no way to know. Likewise, while I'm sure it won't be a deciding factor, who they take at #4 might be a consideration. If they take Hanifin, for instance, would you go D again? Or if it's Marner would you take another winger?

So there's lots to think about but talking about what they "should" do, would be a little like asking a boxer before a fight how he plans to deal with the 9th punch his opponent throws in the 7th round. Read and react, right?
 
That is a great analogy.

I have a (very) small mental list of potential Defense or Forwards ranked. And if they're still on the board at the time, it'll I'd hope they pick the highest option left that plays a different position than the 4th overall. Kylington and Sprong are the ones I've been seeing too.
 
Kylington is really the only defenceman I'd consider at that spot. Sprong and Svechnikov are the two names I've been trumpeting the most.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Kylington is really the only defenceman I'd consider at that spot. Sprong and Svechnikov are the two names I've been trumpeting the most.

I like what I've heard about White, Harkins, Jeremy Roy and Sprong. I'm guessing 1 of those are available in that spot or someone has fallen from the projected top 15...
 
I like the sound of Jeremy Roy on D too, but he's not likely to be available that late.

My only wish is that we get players who can really, really skate.
 
Dubas has the mantra "talent first, talent first", regardless of positional needs.  Perhaps this will change according to the day but it seems they want the best player available at the time they reach the podium.
 
We need a dominant center and a large D man. That is what they show be going for. Yes I agree you take the best possible player. Let it be a true center.
 
freer said:
We need a dominant center and a large D man. That is what they show be going for. Yes I agree you take the best possible player. Let it be a true center.

I don't think we really need a "large D man" though. We need great D men end of story.

Most of the elite D men in the league aren't large D men per se, they're good skaters who effectively transition out of their own zone.

Either way, we're going to end up with one of the 2 you mention. If it's Hanifin @ #4 then we'll be looking at a Harkins or ErikksonEk and it's hard to say if they'll be "dominant".

If we take Strome @ #4 then there are limited options for big D-men at 24.

I don't think it matters all that much as the plan should be to get an extra 1st rounder or 2 next year, which should give them options to bolster whatever is lacking.
 
Anyone think it might make sense to trade with Philly and move down?

What would you want in return?

Leafs move #4 for #7 and #28 and a 2nd. Is that realistic/enough?

While I like the idea of Marner/Strome/Hanifin, I think Barzal/Provorov may be about as good and someone like Harkins could be avalailable at 28.

Generally speaking I don't love the idea of quantity over quality but I wonder if in this case it's sort of quantity of quality.

Barzal/Provorov, Kylington/ErikksonEk, Harkins + a 2nd and ?

over

Srome/Hanifin/Marner and Sprong

I'd consider it anyway.
 
1. I don't think moving down three spots will get you a first round pick and a second.

2. The Leafs need high ceiling talent so, no, I wouldn't do it anyways.
 
I would not be drafting out of the top 5 in this year's draft. Could still get an impact player at 7, but take advantage of the chance for a really high level prospect.
 
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