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2018-2019 Toronto Marlies Thread: Hail to the Champions...and Onwards!

Goaliedave31 said:
I agree Herman. The Blackhawks were able to maintain a winning team for years by constantly bringing in players that had developed in the AHL or Europe. The Leafs may have to move Kadri in order to facilitate keeping Matthews, Marner and Nylander, but the blow will be lessened if players such as Moore and Grundstrom and Engvall can successfully make the jump to the NHL.

I think we still have a lot of value left in the Kadri contract. Unless there is a centre prospect really banging down the doors, there are better options for making future cap space (Zaitsev).

These Marlie seniors are options for backfilling the depth lines (4th line, 3rd pairing) on bare minimum cap hits, with familiarity with our systems and ripened skillsets. They're not meant to perform at core-player level, but as 2-3 year temporaries that will spin up some value. On the off-chance that one defies all expectations and plays his way into a Jonathan Marchessault type season, then we get the opportunity to score bigger on a trade either for that player or the core piece that he displaces.
 
Zee said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/mikeystephens81/status/1054913870580482050

;D

Right out of the Liljegren playbook

From the very small sample I saw of him with the Marlies in dev camp, Sandin looks more defensively mature than most of the prospects/fringe and even some Leafs, so it'll be a matter of adjusting to the speed and strength of his opponents and learning how to work through all of that. Improvements to his skating (a la Dermott) will make him very difficult to get around or knock off the puck.
 
https://twitter.com/dcmahiban/status/1055557944987635712

I think they essentially chose Corrado over both. With him and Sandin the Marlies should be able to have 4 defence pairings now to rotate with.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/dcmahiban/status/1055557944987635712

I think they essentially chose Corrado over both. With him and Sandin the Marlies should be able to have 4 defence pairings now to rotate with.
What they going to do when the Borg is recalled?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/dcmahiban/status/1055557944987635712

I think they essentially chose Corrado over both. With him and Sandin the Marlies should be able to have 4 defence pairings now to rotate with.

They almost had to choose Corrado over both.  Both of the other guys have AHL Veteran status.  You can only dress a limited number of AHL veterans per game.  Leafs are always up against that limit (LoVerde, Muller, etc) so unless one of those guys comes out, you aren't really able to play either of the two on PTO's very often.  Corrado is just under the AHL Veteran limit so he can get cycled in regularly.

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/toronto-marlies/2016/12/7/13855804/toronto-marlies-ahl-development-player-veteran-rule-karri-ramo-mapleleafs-laich-clune-greening
 
https://twitter.com/hailey_salvian/status/1055831751719825408

and Sandin will be seeing game action tonight!

Siegel and Mirtle also mentioned in their latest podcast how Barb Underhill actually went to Montreal over the summer to work with Frederik Gauthier for a stretch, and I think it's showing so far. Imagine fast Gauthier + Leivo. Do we have a coach for puckhandling?
 
I want to bump this video in case some people haven't watched it yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3N8HpG_XmU

Video breakdown of how Rasmus Sandin plays, the defensive decisions he makes, and how he drives play for his team.
 
https://twitter.com/hailey_salvian/status/1055966633884143617

Heyyyyyy

https://twitter.com/torontomarlies/status/1055970641726201856
 
If anyone is looking for a summary on how every Marlies player has fared so far this season (including some hand-tracked advanced stats), check out this article from Jeff Veillette/Faceoff Circle:

http://faceoffcircle.ca/2018/11/02/the-marlies-heading-into-winter-fair-road-trip/

It's hosted on a subscription-based blog, but it'll be free-to-read until 7pm tonight.
 
herman said:
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.
 
The article also reminded me that Liljegren is still eligible for the World Junior's this year. He and Sandin could potentially be a pairing there if the Leafs let them both go (I imagine they will).
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.

A couple of reasons I'd spitball to not have Moore up right now (even though I'd much prefer it):
- No yo-yo youth (of which Moore is, nominally). Similar to Johnsson last year and Kapanen before him, they probably want to see him dominate the level for a long stretch playing big minutes and building confidence; he's shooting nearly 25% right now, which can't possibly be a real number unless he's only ever going to be shooting from the slot off Royal Road passes or tips from the point.
- How much more of a boost overall does Moore have over Ennis in the 6-10 minutes of TOI per game? Ennis is not detrimental, just forgettable and the line is apparently designed to make sure nothing happens. I'd want Moore to be positioned to generate, but I don't think they'd slot him in over Marleau or Hyman just yet (if ever).
- Marlies are struggling a bit to win, and the front office values winning throughout the system, so I think it's an easy tradeoff here
- The coaching staff is babying a handful of freshly graduated prospects in Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Ozhiganov, Holl, Gauthier, and sort of Leivo. They've shown a willingness to bend over almost backwards to shelter the kids heavily and adding more bodies to shelter is not what they want to focus on. Kapanen's already been pushed higher than they want due to the injury and impasse but they clearly want him on the PK training program
- Ennis is a free-agent signing looking to rehab his reputation and I think the Leafs are amenable to giving him as much of a chance to do so as an asset to trade later or actually keep for the season if he plays up to the level he can (see Matt Martin).
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
TREVOR MOORE

The Leafs should absolutely be calling him up to play ahead of Ennis right now. They have an open spot on the roster with Matthews out, I don't know why they wouldn't give Moore a shot.

A couple of reasons I'd spitball to not have Moore up right now (even though I'd much prefer it):
- No yo-yo youth (of which Moore is, nominally). Similar to Johnsson last year and Kapanen before him, they probably want to see him dominate the level for a long stretch playing big minutes and building confidence; he's shooting nearly 25% right now, which can't possibly be a real number unless he's only ever going to be shooting from the slot off Royal Road passes or tips from the point.
- How much more of a boost overall does Moore have over Ennis in the 6-10 minutes of TOI per game? Ennis is not detrimental, just forgettable and the line is apparently designed to make sure nothing happens. I'd want Moore to be positioned to generate, but I don't think they'd slot him in over Marleau or Hyman just yet (if ever).
- Marlies are struggling a bit to win, and the front office values winning throughout the system, so I think it's an easy tradeoff here
- The coaching staff is babying a handful of freshly graduated prospects in Kapanen, Johnsson, Dermott, Ozhiganov, Holl, Gauthier, and sort of Leivo. They've shown a willingness to bend over almost backwards to shelter the kids heavily and adding more bodies to shelter is not what they want to focus on. Kapanen's already been pushed higher than they want due to the injury and impasse but they clearly want him on the PK training program
- Ennis is a free-agent signing looking to rehab his reputation and I think the Leafs are amenable to giving him as much of a chance to do so as an asset to trade later or actually keep for the season if he plays up to the level he can (see Matt Martin).

lol
 
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