2020-2021 NHL Thread

[Bullfrog]

First time a star player got seriously injured and said "thank god"

 

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeany/status/1371633836627464194

I feel like this is bad.

No one should have really expected Buffalo to be good, but I would not have predicted they'd be this bad.

I'm not sure anybody knew it was actually possible to be this bad.

They had to be this bad in their super tank year no? They basically traded everything to try and get McDavid

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeany/status/1371633836627464194

I feel like this is bad.

No one should have really expected Buffalo to be good, but I would not have predicted they'd be this bad.

I'm not sure anybody knew it was actually possible to be this bad.

They had to be this bad in their super tank year no? They basically traded everything to try and get McDavid

This team is on a 49 point pace. The season ending before Eichel was drafted they picked up 54 points. Close, but worse now. Although their goal share of 38% this year is slightly better than their 37% goal share back then.

 

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeany/status/1371633836627464194

I feel like this is bad.

No one should have really expected Buffalo to be good, but I would not have predicted they'd be this bad.

I'm not sure anybody knew it was actually possible to be this bad.

They had to be this bad in their super tank year no? They basically traded everything to try and get McDavid

This team is on a 49 point pace. The season ending before Eichel was drafted they picked up 54 points. Close, but worse now. Although their goal share of 38% this year is slightly better than their 37% goal share back then.

What a sad sack team.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/BrendanKeany/status/1371633836627464194

I feel like this is bad.

No one should have really expected Buffalo to be good, but I would not have predicted they'd be this bad.

I'm not sure anybody knew it was actually possible to be this bad.

They had to be this bad in their super tank year no? They basically traded everything to try and get McDavid

This team is on a 49 point pace. The season ending before Eichel was drafted they picked up 54 points. Close, but worse now. Although their goal share of 38% this year is slightly better than their 37% goal share back then.

What a sad sack team.

It gets worse:

https://twitter.com/BradyTrett/status/1371963842259947523

 

[herman]

Uncalled crosscheck too

 

[Guilt Trip]

Uncalled crosscheck too

He returned for the 2nd period I believe so that's good news. They need to get control of those crosschecks.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Tanev got 5 and a game for this..let the debate begin. Tough outcome but I don't think it was worth that. 
https://twitter.com/spittinchiclets/status/1371986330088054788

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/dafoomie/status/1371985046731689984

 

[bustaheims]

The over head shot definitely provides the needed context. That a serious charging penalty. 5 and a game is the minimum for that.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

The over head shot definitely provides the needed context. That a serious charging penalty. 5 and a game is the minimum for that.

I don't know that it's a "serious" charging penalty as I think hits like this happen nightly, but I see no real issue with the call on the ice.

 

[herman]

Charging - A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player or goalkeeper who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean that the actions of a player or goalkeeper who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check and opponent in any manner.

Boarding. A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently or dangerously. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.

It's both! There is puck separation hits in the flow of play, and then there is targeting a vulnerable player from a significant distance and going out of your way to maximize the impact and subsequent damage.

 

[bustaheims]

The over head shot definitely provides the needed context. That a serious charging penalty. 5 and a game is the minimum for that.

I don't know that it's a "serious" charging penalty as I think hits like this happen nightly, but I see no real issue with the call on the ice.

You don't see a lot of hits where the guys skates from across the ice at full speed to deliver the hit. You see a lot where they glide from far out, but Tanev had his feet moving much later in the play than you see on a nightly basis.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

The over head shot definitely provides the needed context. That a serious charging penalty. 5 and a game is the minimum for that.

I don't know that it's a "serious" charging penalty as I think hits like this happen nightly, but I see no real issue with the call on the ice.

You don't see a lot of hits where the guys skates from across the ice at full speed to deliver the hit. You see a lot where they glide from far out, but Tanev had his feet moving much later in the play than you see on a nightly basis.

I think without the injury, you don't see much discussion about the hit. I agree it's a dangerous play though.
It was dangerous in that the player receiving the check was in that danger zone away from the boards. If that happens at centre ice and the player simply takes the hit and slides into open ice, we're probably not even discussing it today.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

With that distance travelled there'd still be a discussion. I really don't think you see charges like that in the game today very often. That was pretty extreme. Usually at least a guy might take a ton of strides but glide going into the hit, but he was basically taking strides right up to contact.

 

[bustaheims]

I think without the injury, you don't see much discussion about the hit. I agree it's a dangerous play though.
It was dangerous in that the player receiving the check was in that danger zone away from the boards. If that happens at centre ice and the player simply takes the hit and slides into open ice, we're probably not even discussing it today.

If it happens at center ice, unless Tanev is coming from in front of him, he can't travel as far or get up to as high a speed. So, we're not talking apples to apple here. The fact is this was a blindside hit, with excessive force, to a player in a vulnerable position. Even without the injury, it's one that needs to be flagged.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

With that distance travelled there'd still be a discussion. I really don't think you see charges like that in the game today very often.

You may be correct. I've never paid much attention. I think if you remove the crossovers where Tanev is turning, there's really only 3-4 steps towards the player. Though, like I said above, I have no issue with the call.

Charging and Boarding have always been a call for me that's harder to really nail down what the penalty should be. It leaves lots up for interpretation. It's not as obvious as a two hander to the wrist or a cross check to the head. I've always had more of a problem with the boarding calls that are hits from behind that happen all the time and rarely get called.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I think without the injury, you don't see much discussion about the hit. I agree it's a dangerous play though.
It was dangerous in that the player receiving the check was in that danger zone away from the boards. If that happens at centre ice and the player simply takes the hit and slides into open ice, we're probably not even discussing it today.

If it happens at center ice, unless Tanev is coming from in front of him, he can't travel as far or get up to as high a speed. So, we're not talking apples to apple here. The fact is this was a blindside hit, with excessive force, to a player in a vulnerable position. Even without the injury, it's one that needs to be flagged.

You're correct. It does need to get flagged. But without the injury, it probably doesn't lead to a 5 minute major.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Speaking of charging, Carson Soucy will have a hearing to look at this incident where he jumped into a hit. He received a 5 minute major for elbowing with no game misconduct.

https://twitter.com/hockeywildernes/status/1371982271687880706

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Uncalled crosscheck too

I'd be curious as to how many crosschecking penalties have been called this year. It's almost like it's an obsolete penalty.