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2020-2021 NHL Thread

Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/CMDeDominicis/status/1375263387983155202

"No, I really want to keep playing here in Buffalo."
Ha ha

"I really wanna finish what we started here in Buffalo. We're what, 16 winless now? Look at the schedule we can make that 40, no team will ever touch that record"
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
CarltonTheBear said:
OldTimeHockey said:
Now you guys are just talking "make the nets bigger" silly

Are we? The league's already had success with playing around with how certain lines work in the game (changing two line pass rules, tag up offsides, no touch-ish icings). None of that has been set in stone (or ice, get it?).
I don't think it's been posted here yet, despite being published a month ago, but this seems like a good opportunity to bring up the really thoughtful article that Ken Dryden wrote for The Atlantic about the state of goaltending:

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/02/hockey-goalies-are-too-big-now/618021/

Reads like a goalie that's upset that goalies are so much better now ;)
My son's a goalie, and I agree with Dryden. There is way, way less open net to shoot at than there was 2+ decades ago because of how much space goalies take up. I think it is 100% by far the biggest reason scoring is so modest compared to 2+ decades ago.

I don't disagree. I was kidding really.
I was a goalie through the 80's and 90's. I sort of fall between Dryden and today's goalies in style of play and equipment. When I made the reference to the nets, I was more referring to the bend of the posts that some people were suggesting. My brain can't compute it.

Goalies today are now puck blockers, not puck savers. They've gotten so big that they've been able to drop further back into their net and still block angles. This allows them to cover the width of the net much easier. I actually think that I have less of a problem with bigger nets than I do with removing offsides or changing penalty lengths.....and I'd grow to accept that as well.

A couple side notes:
Goals/Game are only down slightly from the 1970's and actually on par with the 1960's. Where you see the jump in scoring is in the 80's. About 1.5 goals more per game.
I think it's important to acknowledge how much better trained goalies(and players) are trained both physically and mentally now. I'm all for acknowledging a goalies large equipment. I also think it's important to acknowledge how much better of athletes they are now then they were in 1970, or for that matter, 1990 or 2000.

 
Bullfrog said:
Hey Carlton. What's your feeling on the Staals?

Their family should have spent a little less time at hockey practice and a little more time potty training them so they don't throw tantrums every time they poop their diapers.
 
Official now according to Chris Johnston. 3rd and a 5th to Buffalo and they retain 50% of the salary.
 
Bender said:
Nik said:
Official now according to Chris Johnston. 3rd and a 5th to Buffalo and they retain 50% of the salary.
That seems very cheap to me.

Maybe a little cheaper than what we'd see in a normal year but combine the fact that nobody from Buffalo is really doing themselves any favours in terms of building personal value and that the covid year obviously makes deadline deals a little less impactful because teams are getting less games out of their acquisitions and I think the drop off feels about right.

This isn't a perfect comparison because they play difference positions, but Andy Greene got a 2nd round pick and a not great prospect in David Quenneville from the Islanders last year. So here the 2nd round pick drops a round and the meh prospect gets subbed for a 5th. Again, feels about right.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bender said:
Nik said:
Official now according to Chris Johnston. 3rd and a 5th to Buffalo and they retain 50% of the salary.
That seems very cheap to me.

Maybe a little cheaper than what we'd see in a normal year but combine the fact that nobody from Buffalo is really doing themselves any favours in terms of building personal value and that the covid year obviously makes deadline deals a little less impactful because teams are getting less games out of their acquisitions and I think the drop off feels about right.

This isn't a perfect comparison because they play difference positions, but Andy Greene got a 2nd round pick and a not great prospect in David Quenneville from the Islanders last year. So here the 2nd round pick drops a round and the meh prospect gets subbed for a 5th. Again, feels about right.
Give me Hall please.
 
You can't look at Staal's production on Buffalo cause that entire team sucks. He could be a good add for the Habs, their version of Spezza for us.
 
Ovechkin is doing that thing again.  10 goals in his last 10 games.  He?s 8 goals away from breaking into the top 5 in all time goal scoring.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
https://twitter.com/JeffMarek/status/1376313682989359105

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1376316162582188035
Don?t look up the video if you?re squeamish about knees going one way while the body falls the other way
 
Maybe he's pulling a Torts and trying to get fired.

Columbus by the way is 5-9-4 in their last 18 games and just lost back to back games against Detroit. Laine has 1 goal and 4 points in his last 16 games.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Maybe he's pulling a Torts and trying to get fired.

Columbus by the way is 5-9-4 in their last 18 games and just lost back to back games against Detroit. Laine has 1 goal and 4 points in his last 16 games.
Galchenyuk > Laine
 

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