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2020 Trade Deadline Activity

Nik Bethune said:
On the surface this may be worse than Marleau.
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It's always going to be tough to compare Marleau to other salary dumps. The Leafs had a short window to move him and it was clear any team that did acquire him was going to have to immediately buy him out (otherwise he wouldn't have ok'd the trade). So they were trading $6.25mil of completely dead cap space that wouldn't be moveable again after.

A guy like Backes can either play for the Ducks and get moved again potentially or he might even just wind up on LTIR next season (he only played 16 games this season) and he ends up being only kinda irritating to Anaheim's cap guy.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
A guy like Backes can either play for the Ducks and get moved again potentially or he might even just wind up on LTIR next season (he only played 16 games this season) and he ends up being only kinda irritating to Anaheim's cap guy.
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Backes is actually (supposedly) healthy. It's just that he was sent to the AHL but told not to report. He has a long concussion history, and the Bruins were likely trying to protect him from suffering from another one this season, but, right now, he might not be an LTIR candidate . . .
 
It should be noted that Kase has also been out with a concussion for the past 2 weeks (suffered from a hit by Muzzin actually). He also has a history of concussions. I think he's an example of a guy who's gone from underrated to overrated kinda quickly.

I'm more upset they got out of the Backes deal, but I guess with just 1 year left there was bound to be a team out there who would take it.
 
bustaheims said:
Backes is actually (supposedly) healthy. It's just that he was sent to the AHL but told not to report. He has a long concussion history, and the Bruins were likely trying to protect him from suffering from another one this season, but, right now, he might not be an LTIR candidate . . .
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He'll be 36 years old next season with a long history of injuries. All the Ducks need to say is his back hurts and they'll give the thumbs up to LTIR him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
He'll be 36 years old next season with a long history of injuries. All the Ducks need to say is his back hurts and they'll give the thumbs up to LTIR him.
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I guess, as long as Backes is on board with that. Otherwise, this quote is going to hurt their case in a grievance:

https://www.tsn.ca/boston-bruins-acquire-ondrej-kase-from-anaheim-ducks-1.1446306 said:
"After speaking with David, we have agreed that it is in the best interest of David and the Bruins for him not to play in Providence at this time," Bruins general manager Don Sweeney said in January. "David is fit and able to play, but in order to preserve all potential options for both David and the Bruins moving forward, we have decided this is the best course of action."
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bustaheims said:
I guess, as long as Backes is on board with that. Otherwise, this quote is going to hurt their case in a grievance
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Well if Backes gets waived to start the season he'll have 3 options:

1) Play in the AHL
2) Go along with the sham LTIR
3) Don't report and pull a Bogosian

None are really great options, but if Backes is honest with himself about where his game is at #2 seems like the best one for him personally.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Well if Backes gets waived to start the season he'll have 3 options:

1) Play in the AHL
2) Go along with the sham LTIR
3) Don't report and pull a Bogosian

None are really great options, but if Backes is honest with himself about where his game is at #2 seems like the best one for him personally.
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Yeah, maybe, though with option #1, he still gets paid, and he still gets to play (assuming still wants to, at least). It wouldn't shock me if he believes he still has a couple years left in him. When he's healthy, he's still able to play a relatively reliable defensive game. I can see him trying to stick on some team's 4th line, in the hopes of getting himself a Cup ring.
 
bustaheims said:
When he's healthy, he's still able to play a relatively reliable defensive game. I can see him trying to stick on some team's 4th line, in the hopes of getting himself a Cup ring.
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Even if this is the case (which I doubt, like I said he'll be 36 years old next season, has been steadily declining for a couple years now, and has sat for most of this season) that just means Anaheim could probably find some dumb team who wants grit to trade him to at next years deadline.

Anyway regardless of what Anaheim does with Backes the trade will come down to how well Kase performs. If he can transfer over all of his underlying metrics over to another team and if he can put all of his injury/concussion troubles behind him then yeah Boston did great here. I just think both of those are big-ifs. Especially considering he's currently recovering from a concussion. I just don't see him as a guaranteed 2nd liner who can put up 30 goals right now. There is a fair bit of risk here on the Bruins' end.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Anyway regardless of what Anaheim does with Backes the trade will come down to how well Kase performs. If he can transfer over all of his underlying metrics over to another team and if he can put all of his injury/concussion troubles behind him then yeah Boston did great here. I just think both of those are big-ifs. Especially considering he's currently recovering from a concussion. I just don't see him as a guaranteed 2nd liner who can put up 30 goals right now. There is a fair bit of risk here on the Bruins' end.
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That's a huge if, considering the number of concussions he's already suffered. This is his 4th or 5th concussion in 4 seasons. Who knows how many he may have had before that.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Anyway regardless of what Anaheim does with Backes the trade will come down to how well Kase performs. If he can transfer over all of his underlying metrics over to another team and if he can put all of his injury/concussion troubles behind him then yeah Boston did great here. I just think both of those are big-ifs. Especially considering he's currently recovering from a concussion. I just don't see him as a guaranteed 2nd liner who can put up 30 goals right now. There is a fair bit of risk here on the Bruins' end.
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That's a huge if, considering the number of concussions he's already suffered. This is his 4th or 5th concussion in 4 seasons. Who knows how many he may have had before that.
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After that many concussions is it even advisable that he continue to play?
 
https://twitter.com/NHLBruins/status/1230933269102899200

Oh, flu-like symptoms you say? What odd timing since he also hasn't played since this hit...

https://twitter.com/NHLSafetyWatch/status/1226004989312671746
 
Dreger at 3:15pm: Sources say the Islanders have traded Ilya Sorokin?s rights to Chicago.

Dreger at 3:27pm: Sorokin has not been traded to Chicago.  Despite the fact his teammates and others in Moscow believed to this be the case.  Chicago sources have confirmed no trade. My mistake.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Dreger at 3:15pm: Sources say the Islanders have traded Ilya Sorokin?s rights to Chicago.

Dreger at 3:27pm: Sorokin has not been traded to Chicago.  Despite the fact his teammates and others in Moscow believed to this be the case.  Chicago sources have confirmed no trade. My mistake.
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He probably should have checked with those Chicago sources before tweeting. I'm guessing someone with the Blackhawks saw the tweet and went to him to tell him it wasn't true.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Dreger at 3:15pm: Sources say the Islanders have traded Ilya Sorokin?s rights to Chicago.

Dreger at 3:27pm: Sorokin has not been traded to Chicago.  Despite the fact his teammates and others in Moscow believed to this be the case.  Chicago sources have confirmed no trade. My mistake.
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Dreger's "sources" are always so reliable, though... ;D

Now, watch Sorokin get traded somewhere else. The Islanders shouldn't trade him at all, but, Islanders gonna Islander.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/NHLBruins/status/1230933269102899200

Oh, flu-like symptoms you say? What odd timing since he also hasn't played since this hit...

https://twitter.com/NHLSafetyWatch/status/1226004989312671746
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That wasn't an illegal hit. Tough for Muzzin to change his direction mid hit when Kase loses his balances and drops his head height by a foot.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/NHLBruins/status/1230933269102899200

Oh, flu-like symptoms you say? What odd timing since he also hasn't played since this hit...

https://twitter.com/NHLSafetyWatch/status/1226004989312671746
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That wasn't an illegal hit. Tough for Muzzin to change his direction mid hit when Kase loses his balances and drops his head height by a foot.
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I think it's even arguable that some of the upward motion at the tail end of the hit is Muzzin compensating for the abrupt head drop and Muzzin steering his own shoulder up and away from the head.
 
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