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2021-2022 NHL Thread

I think the crowd was louder at the Leafs last home game.  Watching this really makes me wonder how the NHL manages to get a TV deal.  They have no idea how to market the game

How do you not know how to follow the play at the all-star game.  Zooming in and out to miss plays including a goal.
 
Is the poor camera work not the result of the actual TV broadcaster that already has given the NHL the TV deal?

I was watching an american feed on TBS or TNT(can't remember). They flashed the shot speed every time a shot was taken. My first take was "neat"...Then it was...who cares how hard that wrist shot was. American broadcasting continues to try and market the league like it's the XFL.
 
Is it just me or is the whole all star weekend just cringeworthily cheesey? Like it?s actually hard to watch if you even try to watch.
 
Arn said:
Is it just me or is the whole all star weekend just cringeworthily cheesey? Like it?s actually hard to watch if you even try to watch.

The costumes are idiotic.
I use to enjoy the all star weekend. Back when Al Macinnis was winning hardest shooter competitions and Ray Bourque was the most accurate. Pavel Bure or Federov were the fastest skaters. I'm not sure why the breakaway challenge can't be more similar to the slam dunk competition. Yes, it's gotten a little cheesy too but at least there aren't people coming out dressed like dodgeball characters from movies. (Maybe there is, I haven't watched in a few years).
 
I look at it from a few perspectives:

1) we all know hockey players don?t have over the top personalities.  Most of the guys that do are usually more the grunt players who you don?t really want to be marketing as the face of the league because they don?t check off the skill elements. 

2) if they are having fun doing the sideshow stuff, good for them.  This kind of stuff killed the NBA dunk contest (although I think we really hit a generational got as a good as we can until someone can jump higher/farther) that forced it that way. 

3) The NHL executives have no idea how to market the game.  They boast about the importance of media markets but have largely done nothing to make the NHL successful in non-traditional markets.  Tampa was a tire fire until they got their current owner and it has been their ownership who put roots in Tampa.  Winning helped but the NHL had little to do with making Tampa work.    They have no idea how to manage Arizona.  Florida gets 10 people into the arena and cheers about it.  They suck at expanding the league beyond making more teams.

There is no forward vision from the NHL and until the ownership defeats from Jeremy Jacobs and The Wirtz? as the key decision makers you aren?t going to see creative marketing of the league
 
Arn said:
Is it just me or is the whole all star weekend just cringeworthily cheesey? Like it?s actually hard to watch if you even try to watch.
That is the whole thing about Vegas, it is cheesey, so you have to decide if you like cheesey things?
 
L K said:
3) The NHL executives have no idea how to market the game.  They boast about the importance of media markets but have largely done nothing to make the NHL successful in non-traditional markets.  Tampa was a tire fire until they got their current owner and it has been their ownership who put roots in Tampa.  Winning helped but the NHL had little to do with making Tampa work.    They have no idea how to manage Arizona.  Florida gets 10 people into the arena and cheers about it.  They suck at expanding the league beyond making more teams.

I guess I disagree with this slightly as it seems to me that the entire crux of the NHL's strategy over the last 20 or years has been "What can we do to win non-traditional fans". They shut down the sport to get a hard salary cap in place that is terrible for big revenue markets and has resulted in flat parity around the league. They've always bowed to their broadcast partners in terms of scheduling games. They've constantly stuck to a playoff format that rewards divisional success over just overall record. And, like you mentioned, they've displayed a neverending commitment to markets where clearly things aren't working just in the hope that they will eventually turn things around.

Meanwhile it seems like all they've managed to do is to turn the sport even more regional.
 
It's very much a CHL goal but still...

https://twitter.com/WHLPats/status/1490461402653503489
 
It had been a while since Marchand did something stupid.  He was in fine form tonight
 
https://twitter.com/BradyTrett/status/1491241947645706245

He's been offered an in-person hearing with DOPS for this.

I know Marchand's always had a screw loose, but this was just mind-bogglingly stupid.
 
Marchand had A LOT going on last night.

Before the sock and stick:
https://twitter.com/BradyTrett/status/1491232274339483649

Regular b-hole stuff
https://twitter.com/TaylorHaasePGH/status/1491234190310125574
 
No one has ever suggested Marchand is a 'good sport' or anything. The bad sportsmanship crap is par for the course, and a big part of why he's largely hated outside of Boston. He was also overdue for a meltdown.

As a repeat offender with a lengthy list of suspensions - including one already this season - this should be a big one. It won't be, because, you know, this is the NHL, but it should be. Sucker punches and swinging sticks at people's heads should be easy to set examples for, but the league will screw this up somehow.
 
bustaheims said:
Sucker punches and swinging sticks at people's heads should be easy to set examples for, but the league will screw this up somehow.

What's funny is this is basically the exact types of plays that Parros said he wanted to focus on when he was first hired as head of DOPS:

Parros would like to break with precedents on nonhockey infractions, like a retaliatory slash to the face. The GMs would have to endorse any increase in suspension severity.

"I've always thought that they could have been a bit harsher on certain plays that I felt where clearly someone intended to do something that was away from the play, had nothing to do with the game and no benefit other than to disable or hurt a person," Parros said. "Just trying to go a little bit harder on those, because I felt it's been soft in some instances."

Let's see if he's still serious about that.
 
Bergeron was also injured in last night's game, so, in the span of ~24 hours, the Bruins could lose him, Marchand, and Rask. Rask doesn't seem like a big loss, but that's 2/3 of their top line. Considering the team has barely any offensive depth, they could be in for a painful stretch here.
 
bustaheims said:
No one has ever suggested Marchand is a 'good sport' or anything. The bad sportsmanship crap is par for the course, and a big part of why he's largely hated outside of Boston. He was also overdue for a meltdown.

As a repeat offender with a lengthy list of suspensions - including one already this season - this should be a big one. It won't be, because, you know, this is the NHL, but it should be. Sucker punches and swinging sticks at people's heads should be easy to set examples for, but the league will screw this up somehow.

Just imagine if they were to penalize Marchand like he is Kadri.
 
Rask has officially retired.

I still remember when we drafted him, when I watched his WJC, screamed when he was traded and subsequently won the Cup and destroyed us for years.

Guys... I think... I'm getting old [emoji24]
 
princedpw said:
bustaheims said:
No one has ever suggested Marchand is a 'good sport' or anything. The bad sportsmanship crap is par for the course, and a big part of why he's largely hated outside of Boston. He was also overdue for a meltdown.

As a repeat offender with a lengthy list of suspensions - including one already this season - this should be a big one. It won't be, because, you know, this is the NHL, but it should be. Sucker punches and swinging sticks at people's heads should be easy to set examples for, but the league will screw this up somehow.

Just imagine if they were to penalize Marchand like he is Kadri.

The NHL taking their cues from the Ottawa Police.
 

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