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2021-2022 NHL Thread

Joe S. said:
I get it for a player that hasn?t played for that org for a while, like Halladay for example, he last played for the Phillies but wanted to retire as a Blue Jays player, but Hossa last played for Chicago, so what?s the point? I also thought he?d already retired.

Well, I assume literally that when you officially file the paperwork for retirement you have to put down what team you were last a part of and in Hossa's case, that's the Coyotes or whoever ended up with his contract. So the symbolism is he gets to put down the Blackhawks on his retirement papers which is the "point" of all of these things.
 
Rob said:
Joe S. said:
https://thehockeynews.com/news/hossa-to-sign-one-day-contract-with-blackhawks-retire

I don?t get it. He last played for the blackhawks. So what?s the point of this?

His contract was traded to the Coyotes.

Ok. But he never played there and never wore the uniform. Anyway it doesn?t really matter. This just seemed extra pointless to me but if it?s important to him all the power to him.

And I guess it?s a good pr move for Chicago what with all the negative press around them this year.
 
Deebo said:
Alfredsson in 05/06 was 5th in Hart voting and had 12 more goals and 16 more points than Getzlaf did in 13/14.

True but I don't really think you can directly compare 05/06 scoring to 13/14 scoring, things were bonkers coming right out of the lockout. In Alfredsson's best season he finished well outside the top-3 for the Hart, and even probably more deserved a 6th place finish at best that season. Ovi finishing behind him despite scoring 52 goals, having more points (albeit a very slightly less PPG rate), and having Dainius Zubrus as his linemate as opposed to Heatley and Spezza feels like an outright travesty but that's an entirely separate conversation. Getzlaf had a season where he was a top-3 player in hockey. I think that's a noteworthy distinction to make despite the differences in goals/points the two had in those respective seasons.

Deebo said:
Pretty good peak year, plus 160 more career goals, higher points per game, good playoff numbers, also has Olympic Gold.

And I think all of that makes a solid case for Alfredsson being in the "Hall of very good" category which may eventually turn into a HHOF nod. Getzlaf would absolutely also be in that category as well, maybe even a small notch below Alfy, if he didn't have that one season where he could call himself a top-3 player in the world.
 
I remember losing my shit when he did the fake stick throw to make fun of Sundin. I was so angry.

I?d likely laugh if that happened today.
 
Joe S. said:
I remember losing my shit when he did the fake stick throw to make fun of Sundin. I was so angry.

I?d likely laugh if that happened today.

I don't remember what my reaction to it was at the time but yeah after all these years I don't know how anyone can say that wasn't a solid bit on his part.
 
There's currently 48 players who have played at least 28 games this season and are scoring at a PPG or higher pace.

Last season 22 players did that. The season before that, also 22.
 
Joe S. said:
I remember losing my shit when he did the fake stick throw to make fun of Sundin. I was so angry.

I?d likely laugh if that happened today.

Even at the time I thought it was funny.  Fitting to the situation.

As much as he was hated as Leaf rival, he was a great player for that franchise for many years.  Had he been a Leaf, and I know we always said he'd have been the perfect winger for Sundin, we would have absolutely loved him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
There's currently 48 players who have played at least 28 games this season and are scoring at a PPG or higher pace.

Last season 22 players did that. The season before that, also 22.

28 games seems like a low bar no?
 
Joe S. said:
CarltonTheBear said:
There's currently 48 players who have played at least 28 games this season and are scoring at a PPG or higher pace.

Last season 22 players did that. The season before that, also 22.

28 games seems like a low bar no?

It's 1/3 of the season. Enough that it would require a fair amount of skill and luck to still be a P/G player.
 
bustaheims said:
Joe S. said:
CarltonTheBear said:
There's currently 48 players who have played at least 28 games this season and are scoring at a PPG or higher pace.

Last season 22 players did that. The season before that, also 22.

28 games seems like a low bar no?

It's 1/3 of the season. Enough that it would require a fair amount of skill and luck to still be a P/G player.

It squeezes in guys like Stone, Pacioretty, Kucherov, and Malkin who missed a lot of time this year but are of course legitimately top level players that likely would have hit the PPG mark even with more games.

If you go with 48 games played that's still 43 players.
 
Peter D. said:
Joe S. said:
I remember losing my shit when he did the fake stick throw to make fun of Sundin. I was so angry.

I?d likely laugh if that happened today.

Even at the time I thought it was funny.  Fitting to the situation.

As much as he was hated as Leaf rival, he was a great player for that franchise for many years.  Had he been a Leaf, and I know we always said he'd have been the perfect winger for Sundin, we would have absolutely loved him.

I thought it was funny at the time. I remember that game.
 

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