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2021-22 Training Camp Thread

moon111 said:
As much as wish Engvall would play more like he was born in Alberta than Sweden, but I'd just be elated if he could effectively go to the net.  Think the Leafs need this so much, especially in the playoffs, that they should hire a Dirty Goals coach.  Hire Tim Kerr or someone to really hone or develop Ritchie, Mikheyev, Kase, Engvall, Bunting, and Simmonds in this manner.  The pretty plays and the Leafs stop in the playoffs.
Nylander was born in Alberta and plays the same. Where you were born doesn?t truthfully matter. It?s how you were coached in the early checking years. How you were taught to score at a young age. It?s all about your natural instincts not just your ability. Tim Kerr like Cicarelli and Robitaille were scoring machines because of instincts not solely because of skill. Some coaches when the se guys were in Bantam and Midget showed them and through success those skills became instinctual. Engvall is not just going to start being a net front presence when his whole life he?s been told to use his speed and that his skating is his strongest asset. He?s not going to all of a sudden stop skating and standing in front of net. Whereas JVR loved standing beside the net. We saw countless videos of him practicing his shot from within 2 feet of the net.
 
Big Daddy said:
moon111 said:
As much as wish Engvall would play more like he was born in Alberta than Sweden, but I'd just be elated if he could effectively go to the net.  Think the Leafs need this so much, especially in the playoffs, that they should hire a Dirty Goals coach.  Hire Tim Kerr or someone to really hone or develop Ritchie, Mikheyev, Kase, Engvall, Bunting, and Simmonds in this manner.  The pretty plays and the Leafs stop in the playoffs.
Nylander was born in Alberta and plays the same. Where you were born doesn?t truthfully matter. It?s how you were coached in the early checking years. How you were taught to score at a young age. It?s all about your natural instincts not just your ability. Tim Kerr like Cicarelli and Robitaille were scoring machines because of instincts not solely because of skill. Some coaches when the se guys were in Bantam and Midget showed them and through success those skills became instinctual. Engvall is not just going to start being a net front presence when his whole life he?s been told to use his speed and that his skating is his strongest asset. He?s not going to all of a sudden stop skating and standing in front of net. Whereas JVR loved standing beside the net. We saw countless videos of him practicing his shot from within 2 feet of the net.

The best Leaf, in my generation at least, that stood in front of the net and popped in goal after goal was Dave Andreychuk. If Richie can do that 1/4 as well as Andreychuk did I?d be happy with him.

Until the Leafs make the SC final again that Gilmour and Andreychuk led team is still the example to follow from past Leafs teams in the modern era.
 
RedLeaf said:
Big Daddy said:
moon111 said:
As much as wish Engvall would play more like he was born in Alberta than Sweden, but I'd just be elated if he could effectively go to the net.  Think the Leafs need this so much, especially in the playoffs, that they should hire a Dirty Goals coach.  Hire Tim Kerr or someone to really hone or develop Ritchie, Mikheyev, Kase, Engvall, Bunting, and Simmonds in this manner.  The pretty plays and the Leafs stop in the playoffs.
Nylander was born in Alberta and plays the same. Where you were born doesn?t truthfully matter. It?s how you were coached in the early checking years. How you were taught to score at a young age. It?s all about your natural instincts not just your ability. Tim Kerr like Cicarelli and Robitaille were scoring machines because of instincts not solely because of skill. Some coaches when the se guys were in Bantam and Midget showed them and through success those skills became instinctual. Engvall is not just going to start being a net front presence when his whole life he?s been told to use his speed and that his skating is his strongest asset. He?s not going to all of a sudden stop skating and standing in front of net. Whereas JVR loved standing beside the net. We saw countless videos of him practicing his shot from within 2 feet of the net.

The best Leaf, in my generation at least, that stood in front of the net and popped in goal after goal was Dave Andreychuk. If Richie can do that 1/4 as well as Andreychuk did I?d be happy with him.

Until the Leafs make the SC final again that Gilmour and Andreychuk led team is still the example to follow from past Leafs teams in the modern era.
Absolutely agree with this. If one of those guys could duplicate Big Dave. We would be laughing. Maybe they should get him down there trying to teach the willing
 
Dappleganger said:
Bullfrog said:
RedLeaf said:
I think this is the year Matthews overtakes Andreychuk as the last Leafs to pot 50.

Agreed. But let's aim higher and go for 60. :)

I think mid-60's is attainable.

He scored at a 55 goal pace (over an 82 game season) 2 seasons ago, then a 65 goal pace last season...and he was having issues with his wrist this past season.

If he can stay healthy, which he hasn't been able to do thus far into his career, but if he could it's quite realistic that he could reach 60+.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1446898763117834245

it wouldn't surprise me if both got claimed... but I hope they pass through... both could do spot duty during the season...
 
caveman said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1446898763117834245

it wouldn't surprise me if both got claimed... but I hope they pass through... both could do spot duty during the season...
Don't see either getting claimed and if they do, no biggie. Brooks and or Engvall, different story.
 
Big Daddy said:
He?s not going to all of a sudden stop skating and standing in front of net. Whereas JVR loved standing beside the net. We saw countless videos of him practicing his shot from within 2 feet of the net.
The Leafs are fools if they think teams are going to allow them the same pond hockey tactics in the playoffs as they do in the regular season.  Let's put it this way, if a  player is getting paid less than $3 million and are unwilling to pay the same price Doug Gilmour did in front of the net, in a time the league is supposedly cutting down on cross-checking, they are the root cause of why the Leafs can't get past the first round.  Think all these players should be practicing their shot from within 2 feet of the net. 
 
caveman said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1446898763117834245

it wouldn't surprise me if both got claimed... but I hope they pass through... both could do spot duty during the season...

I highly doubt any team sees either of these guys as better than what they have on their roster. Neither are full-time NHLers.
 
bustaheims said:
caveman said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1446898763117834245

it wouldn't surprise me if both got claimed... but I hope they pass through... both could do spot duty during the season...

I highly doubt any team sees either of these guys as better than what they have on their roster. Neither are full-time NHLers.

I saw some speculation that NYR might be looking at Gabriel to cover their injury loss of Ryan Reaves.
 
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1447262253150056453

Brooks on waivers today.

Surprised Amadio isn't there as well. Maybe that's a LTIR thing since he makes a whopping $25k more than Brooks?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1447262253150056453

Brooks on waivers today.

Surprised Amadio isn't there as well. Maybe that's a LTIR thing since he makes a whopping $25k more than Brooks?

I think Brooks clears given who else is on the wire today
 
herman said:
I think Brooks clears given who else is on the wire today

Yeah I don't get the talks about him being a waiver risk. Most teams have like 3 Adam Brooks' (including the Leafs). Still could happen but even if it does, meh. I'd rather see Semyonov play ahead of him.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
I think Brooks clears given who else is on the wire today

Yeah I don't get the talks about him being a waiver risk. Most teams have like 3 Adam Brooks' (including the Leafs). Still could happen but even if it does, meh. I'd rather see Semyonov play ahead of him.
I wouldn't mind giving him more of a look but Amadio is basically more experienced, similar production and bigger body at the same age.
 
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
I think Brooks clears given who else is on the wire today

Yeah I don't get the talks about him being a waiver risk. Most teams have like 3 Adam Brooks' (including the Leafs). Still could happen but even if it does, meh. I'd rather see Semyonov play ahead of him.
I wouldn't mind giving him more of a look but Amadio is basically more experienced, similar production and bigger body at the same age.

I had no idea Amadio had played 173 games in the NHL until like a week ago.
 

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