Armchair GM 2016-2017

[Frank E]

http://www.tsn.ca/landeskog-duchene-could-be-on-the-table-as-avs-rebuild-1.649580

OK boys and girls, anyone think they should try to get Shattenkirk before July 1?

If, and only if, he comes with an extension already signed.

FINE...and the problem with trading with the Avs is that they're obviously going to want futures in return, and I don't think the Leafs are ready to start trading away picks/prospects at this point.

I know that article herman posted was suggesting that the Leafs just hold off until the market adjusts, but JVR and Bozak have a best-before date with their contracts and stuff, so I'm not sure that "just wait" is really a viable option.

I'm all for patience with developing the young talent, but this is still a rebuild, and assets need to be converted.  I think they should want to make a move by this deadline with those guys. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

http://www.tsn.ca/landeskog-duchene-could-be-on-the-table-as-avs-rebuild-1.649580

OK boys and girls, anyone think they should try to get Shattenkirk before July 1?

If, and only if, he comes with an extension already signed.

FINE...and the problem with trading with the Avs is that they're obviously going to want futures in return, and I don't think the Leafs are ready to start trading away picks/prospects at this point.

I know that article herman posted was suggesting that the Leafs just hold off until the market adjusts, but JVR and Bozak have a best-before date with their contracts and stuff, so I'm not sure that "just wait" is really a viable option.

I'm all for patience with developing the young talent, but this is still a rebuild, and assets need to be converted.  I think they should want to make a move by this deadline with those guys. 

You know Shattenkirk plays for St. Louis, right?

 

[Kin]

If you figure on what St. Louis would want in terms of a rental for Shattenkirk...no?

Unless, I mean, if you could work out a JVR for Shattenkirk thing with an extension agreed to beforehand then I suppose so but even then I'd rather deal JVR for futures and then try to just sign Shattenkirk.

 

[Frank E]

http://www.tsn.ca/landeskog-duchene-could-be-on-the-table-as-avs-rebuild-1.649580

OK boys and girls, anyone think they should try to get Shattenkirk before July 1?

If, and only if, he comes with an extension already signed.

FINE...and the problem with trading with the Avs is that they're obviously going to want futures in return, and I don't think the Leafs are ready to start trading away picks/prospects at this point.

I know that article herman posted was suggesting that the Leafs just hold off until the market adjusts, but JVR and Bozak have a best-before date with their contracts and stuff, so I'm not sure that "just wait" is really a viable option.

I'm all for patience with developing the young talent, but this is still a rebuild, and assets need to be converted.  I think they should want to make a move by this deadline with those guys. 

You know Shattenkirk plays for St. Louis, right?

Damn it...

 

[Frank E]

If you figure on what St. Louis would want in terms of a rental for Shattenkirk...no?

Unless, I mean, if you could work out a JVR for Shattenkirk thing with an extension agreed to beforehand then I suppose so but even then I'd rather deal JVR for futures and then try to just sign Shattenkirk.

NEVERMIND!

 

[Jolly good show chaps]

Prospects/picks for Tyson Barrie? Anything we can realistically offer that they would take without giving up any of Marner, Matthews and Nylander?

 

[herman]

Damn it...

Friday

 

[herman]

Prospects/picks for Tyson Barrie? Anything we can realistically offer that they would take without giving up any of Marner, Matthews and Nylander?

I don't know that I'd be in the market for trading from our prospect pool unless it was either lateral (e.g. prospect forward for prospect defenseman) or shedding chaff (prospects that need a fresh look elsewhere). We have a some good 'win-now' pieces in JvR, Bozak, Komarov, Polak, Hunwick that should be prioritized for moving.

 

[Jolly good show chaps]

^ that's kind of why I wondered. We give up some prospects and picks for a defenceman and then look to shift Bozak, Komarov and JVR to other teams to restock.

 

[herman]

^ that's kind of why I wondered. We give up some prospects and picks for a defenceman and then look to shift Bozak, Komarov and JVR to other teams to restock.

For the right defenseman, I'd bite, but the ones I want are currently on contending teams. Additionally, the teams we'd be moving those expiring players to are generally higher up in the standings and therefore lower on the draft order, so that might be considered a downcycle even if we replenished picks round for round.

The type of crazy gamble trade I'd like to see are the ones where we move a vet to a flash-in-the-pan team that has not assessed their future correctly for 2018 1st rounders (Rasmus Dahlin pls). Then when they inevitably crash and burn the next season, everything comes up Milhouse. Jim Benning and the Canucks might be such a target.

 

[pmrules]

What about Sergachev out of Montreal?    Montreal is in win now mode for sure with Price/Weber.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

^ that's kind of why I wondered. We give up some prospects and picks for a defenceman and then look to shift Bozak, Komarov and JVR to other teams to restock.

For the right defenseman, I'd bite, but the ones I want are currently on contending teams. Additionally, the teams we'd be moving those expiring players to are generally higher up in the standings and therefore lower on the draft order, so that might be considered a downcycle even if we replenished picks round for round.

The type of crazy gamble trade I'd like to see are the ones where we move a vet to a flash-in-the-pan team that has not assessed their future correctly for 2018 1st rounders (Rasmus Dahlin pls). Then when they inevitably crash and burn the next season, everything comes up Milhouse. Jim Benning and the Canucks might be such a target.

I wouldn't be opposed to that personally, but I'm fairly certain the players and coach would be more than a little upset if they moved their best LW for a pick two drafts from now, especially if they are still in the hunt.

 

[Frank E]

Damn it...

Friday

Cheers!

 

[Bill_Berg]

What would Down go for? I wouldn't give up much, but what a story to have Down and Matthews head into a playoff series together.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

What would Down go for? I wouldn't give up much, but what a story to have Down and Matthews head into a playoff series together.

I don't want Lou involved in the overpaying for vets syndrome that plagues GM's at the deadline.

 

[Bill_Berg]

What would Down go for? I wouldn't give up much, but what a story to have Down and Matthews head into a playoff series together.

I don't want Lou involved in the overpaying for vets syndrome that plagues GM's at the deadline.

Not sure a 40 year old would inspire that. Maybe. But then I agree that It's not a good fit for the Leafs. But if not, what's Doan worth to Lou? A 4th? Would they even be trading him for value, or just to do him a favour?

 

[louisstamos]

If it's me (and my name is Lou too  ), if the team is in a playoff positions come the deadline, at least with forwards I stand pat.  Go with the guys that brought you to the dance, and save the assets.

On the back end, though, because regardless of the playoff position, I'd be looking to trade one of (if not both) of Polak and Hunwick, you probably look to replace them.  A healthy Marincin probably takes one of their spots, but if you don't trust Corrado and the price is right, maybe you bring in a veteran guy to be that #6 D man?  Johnny Oduya?  Brendan Smith?  Cody Franson?

Not a priority, though.  Again, this isn't the year you go for broke.  Keep as many picks as possible and keep building the team through the draft.

 

[bustaheims]

Not a priority, though.  Again, this isn't the year you go for broke.  Keep as many picks as possible and keep building the team through the draft.

Agreed. Avoid the high profile rentals, ignore the standings, and stick to the plan. At most, you ease back on the sell job with JvR and Bozak, and look at bringing in a cheap depth defenceman. Still more than 6 weeks until the deadline. A lot can happen in that time.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

Myers (D)

An almost Dr. Seuss title:  Who's Myers on the Flyers?

 

[hockeyfan1]

Myers (D)

An almost Dr. Seuss title:  Who's Myers on the Flyers?

Philippe Myers.  A Flyer prospect from 2015.. Not on the roster right now.  He plays defence for the QMJHL's Rouyn-Noranda Huskies, and was a Silver medallist for Team Canada at the 2017 WJHC.

That's who.

P.S.  What's laughable is your username.  An almost Dr.Seuss-ish title, indeed.  : 8)