Britishbulldog
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Looking for a thread that contains Armchair GM ideas for who to protect and who to expose for the Las Vegas expansion draft. I thought I saw some ideas but wonder if they were in this thread. Anyone know?
Armchair GM 2016-2017
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah, I see him as a callup late in the year if the Leafs trade guys like Bozak/JVR/Komarov but nothing more than that this year.
What might complicate that is if the Leafs made a few trades where they would trade someone like JVR but take back a guy who has a contract for next year for purposes of exposing them on the expansion draft.
Britishbulldog
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Well here is the strategy I think I would suggest to decide how to approach the Las Vegas expansion draft:
From all the players under contract remove the pending UFAs and Horton's LITR contract as they are exempt -
Look at the remaining players on this young team to see who are qualify to be the 2 eligible forwards, 1 eligible defense and 1 eligible goalie to see who we suggest to expose. My suggestions to expose are bolded:
Here is the list of players who need to be protected:
Since most of the Leafs talent is young forwards I would approach the expansion draft with the 8 skaters and 1 goalie strategy rather than the 7 forwards, 3 defense and 1 goalie strategy.
If JVR gets moved for a defense man then this strategy is even more prefered in my perspective. So hoping this kind of trade happens I would protect the following:
Kadri, Bozak, Brown, Rychel, Rielly, Gardiner, JVR Trade, Carrick, Andersen.
Add them to:
Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Hyman, Kapanen, Soshnikov, and Zaitsev
I would expect Las Vegas to take Matt Marincin meaning the additional players under contract to the Leafs July 2nd would be:
Komarov,
Martin,
Leivo
12 forwards, 5 defense men and 1 goalie.
....and if JVR doesn't get traded for a defense man then the 7 forwards, 3 defense and 1 goalie protected is back in play:
Kadri, Bozak, JVR, Rychel, Brown, Leipsic, Leivo, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Andersen
From all the players under contract remove the pending UFAs and Horton's LITR contract as they are exempt -
| Forwards: Brooks Laich Milan Michalek Colin Greening Ben Smith | Defense: Roman Polak Matt Hunwick Stephane Robidas Andrew Campbell | Goalies: Jhonas Enroth | Exempt: Nathan Horton |
Look at the remaining players on this young team to see who are qualify to be the 2 eligible forwards, 1 eligible defense and 1 eligible goalie to see who we suggest to expose. My suggestions to expose are bolded:
Eligible Forwards Nazem Kadri JVR if he plays 7 more games Tyler Bozak Leo Komarov Matt Martin Peter Holland | Eligible Defense Morgan Rielly Jake Garderner Martin Marincin | Eligible Goalies Frederik Andersen Antoine Bibeau Garret Sparks |
Here is the list of players who need to be protected:
Forwards Joffery Lupul Nazem Kadri JVR Tyler Bozak Leo Komarov Matt Martin Peter Holland Kerby Rychel Connor Brown Brendan Leipsic Josh Leivo Byron Froese | Defense Morgan Rielly Jake Garderner Martin Marincin Connor Carrick Victor Loov Frank Corrado | Goalies Frederik Andersen Antoine Bibeau Garret Sparks |
Since most of the Leafs talent is young forwards I would approach the expansion draft with the 8 skaters and 1 goalie strategy rather than the 7 forwards, 3 defense and 1 goalie strategy.
If JVR gets moved for a defense man then this strategy is even more prefered in my perspective. So hoping this kind of trade happens I would protect the following:
Kadri, Bozak, Brown, Rychel, Rielly, Gardiner, JVR Trade, Carrick, Andersen.
Add them to:
Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Hyman, Kapanen, Soshnikov, and Zaitsev
I would expect Las Vegas to take Matt Marincin meaning the additional players under contract to the Leafs July 2nd would be:
Komarov,
Martin,
Leivo
12 forwards, 5 defense men and 1 goalie.
....and if JVR doesn't get traded for a defense man then the 7 forwards, 3 defense and 1 goalie protected is back in play:
Kadri, Bozak, JVR, Rychel, Brown, Leipsic, Leivo, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Andersen
Britishbulldog
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Tigger said:
The kicker regarding Komarov and Martin is that they meet the criteria of eligibility. The only other forwards are Kadri, JVR, Bozak and Holland. Holland might be gone soon in a trade or waivers. If the Leafs do trade Komarov, which I am impartial to, and Holland is gone then the Leafs need to expose 2 of: Kadri, JVR, Bozak and Martin.
That's what I was trying to show up above. Where some teams are trying to figure out how to protect as many eligible players as possible, the Leafs are close to needing players who are eligible if any trades are made.
That is why I thought Holland was re-signed and why I thought he was going to be part of the team going forward. The Leafs have hardly enough players who qualify for the expansion draft so that key players can be protected.
The Leafs must really be banking on Marincin as the player getting picked.
The expansion draft probably doesn't get talked about very much because there's still so much time between then and now and so much can change. Look at how many bodies we picked up in the 2nd part of last season. I don't know how they'll do it, but I'm pretty confident the Leafs will make sure all of Bozak/Martin/Komarov are protected. They'll pick up players to make sure they can exposed forwards who meet the criteria.
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bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yup. Really, we won't really have any real clarity about the situation until after the trade deadline.
herman
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https://twitter.com/IgorEronko/status/808720391808188417
This one is pretty soft, as far as rumours go, as Tkachyov has only indicated interest in coming to North America, but hasn't been in direct contact with the Leafs yet, so I'm not going to bother with a separate thread.
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/12/13/leafs-have-interest-in-khl-forward-vladimir-tkachyov
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=77117
If he were to come over, it would be on a 1-year ELC (a la Zaitsev). He's a 23 year old leftie Centre with good faceoff numbers, average size, slick hands, and good along the boards, with a nose for the net-front.
As mentioned in the TLN article, the Leafs have very little centre depth beyond our NHL roster: Adam Brooks, Byron Froese, Fredrick Gauthier, Colin Smith, Trevor Moore, and much less likely candidates in Dominic Toninato, Tony Cameranesi, and Dakota Joshua.
This one is pretty soft, as far as rumours go, as Tkachyov has only indicated interest in coming to North America, but hasn't been in direct contact with the Leafs yet, so I'm not going to bother with a separate thread.
http://theleafsnation.com/2016/12/13/leafs-have-interest-in-khl-forward-vladimir-tkachyov
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=77117
If he were to come over, it would be on a 1-year ELC (a la Zaitsev). He's a 23 year old leftie Centre with good faceoff numbers, average size, slick hands, and good along the boards, with a nose for the net-front.
As mentioned in the TLN article, the Leafs have very little centre depth beyond our NHL roster: Adam Brooks, Byron Froese, Fredrick Gauthier, Colin Smith, Trevor Moore, and much less likely candidates in Dominic Toninato, Tony Cameranesi, and Dakota Joshua.
I'm gonna spitball a trade proposal of JVR, Kapanen, Polak for Jared Spurgeon. Too pricey?
Why it makes sense:
The Wild could really use some offensive help to secure a playoff spot and JVR would be an offensive upgrade to both Parise and Zucker in their top six LW situation.
They also get the benefit of a blue chip RW prospect in Kapanen and a functional RHD shutdown replacement in Polak until season's end.
Leafs secure their top 4 with Rielly, Spurgeon, Gardiner, Zaitsev.
Why it makes sense:
The Wild could really use some offensive help to secure a playoff spot and JVR would be an offensive upgrade to both Parise and Zucker in their top six LW situation.
They also get the benefit of a blue chip RW prospect in Kapanen and a functional RHD shutdown replacement in Polak until season's end.
Leafs secure their top 4 with Rielly, Spurgeon, Gardiner, Zaitsev.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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TBLeafer said:
I think it's an overpayment.
If they acquire a dman I suspect it'll be a #4-#6 type who is on an expiring deal, I don't think they'll risk losing a top 4 dman to expansion.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Aren't we allowed to protect 7F and 4D?
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/fla-vs-min/2016/12/13/2016020438#game=2016020438,game_state=final,game_tab=stats
Height is his only knock. He's become Boudreau's TOP pairing all situations D in every sense of the word, on a defensive juggernaut team, paired with Suter and trusted both on PP and PK.
Kin
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TBLeafer said:
I can't pretend to be an expert on Spurgeon. At a very quick glance I'd say these are my quick hits:
1. I'm not wowed by his numbers, conventional or otherwise
2. He's got a good contract but he's a little old for my tastes in terms of fitting in with this current core
3. Eitherway, exposing Carrick should be reflected as an element of the trade and if it could cost us JVR, Kapanen and Carrick I'd probably want a slightly bigger prize.
Nik the Trik said:
Thinking a little more heavily on it, I'd probably take Kapanen out and replace him with a 2nd.
The point is add an all situations true #2 D, which is what Spurgeon has developed into and solidify our top 4 for future contention.
We're good on offence moving forward.