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If I remember correctly one of the issues for Trouba is that he wants to live in the US as his Father can't enter Canada due to criminal record.
herman said:
I think it's time for a bit of mutual back scratching:

to TOR: Trouba, Griffith(!!!)
to WPG: Gardiner, Nielsen, Greenway, 3rd Rd Pick

Trouba's relationship with the Jets is pretty sour by now, after a dogfight of an arbitration hearing. Gardiner goes to another contender that's closer to home and in need of LD stability. We give up more because Trouba is younger and still RFA.

The throw-ins are debatable.
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Bates said:
If I remember correctly one of the issues for Trouba is that he wants to live in the US as his Father can't enter Canada due to criminal record.
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You know what would be fun?

to TOR: Hamilton
to WPG: Gardiner
to CAR: Trouba

plus whatever else we would need to furnish the trade to even out values (more from us probably -- Kapanen/Brown/Johnsson, Top 90 picks, B-prospects), but we'd get a cost controlled 1RD at the end of it.
 
I'm one of the rare folks who isn't a Hamilton fan.  Just always seems to be a guy that can't get to the next level or care that he can't.
herman said:
Bates said:
If I remember correctly one of the issues for Trouba is that he wants to live in the US as his Father can't enter Canada due to criminal record.
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You know what would be fun?

to TOR: Hamilton
to WPG: Gardiner
to CAR: Trouba

plus whatever else we would need to furnish the trade to even out values (more from us probably -- Kapanen/Brown/Johnsson, Top 90 picks, B-prospects), but we'd get a cost controlled 1RD at the end of it.
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Bates said:
If I remember correctly one of the issues for Trouba is that he wants to live in the US as his Father can't enter Canada due to criminal record.
herman said:
I think it's time for a bit of mutual back scratching:

to TOR: Trouba, Griffith(!!!)
to WPG: Gardiner, Nielsen, Greenway, 3rd Rd Pick

Trouba's relationship with the Jets is pretty sour by now, after a dogfight of an arbitration hearing. Gardiner goes to another contender that's closer to home and in need of LD stability. We give up more because Trouba is younger and still RFA.

The throw-ins are debatable.
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You ruined it.
 
Weird question time.

Bourne speculated about minor league prospects still having a higher reputation than their performance merits.

He said specifically that there was one very clear one on the Marlies that it would be wise to trade while still valuable.

Care to speculate as to who he was talking about?

 
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Weird question time.

Bourne speculated about minor league prospects still having a higher reputation than their performance merits.

He said specifically that there was one very clear one on the Marlies that it would be wise to trade while still valuable.

Care to speculate as to who he was talking about?
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Nielsen?
 
herman said:
WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
Weird question time.

Bourne speculated about minor league prospects still having a higher reputation than their performance merits.

He said specifically that there was one very clear one on the Marlies that it would be wise to trade while still valuable.

Care to speculate as to who he was talking about?
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Nielsen?
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The Goat
 
Those would have been my guesses too. Although I still think Goat has bottom line defensive specialist potential. His skating took a real knock when he suffered a horrific leg injury just over a year ago.

To that point he had taken his game to another level largely due to improved skating allowing him to dominate with the defensive game and produce subsequent offence.

I think with continued strength and rehab work the Goat can get back to that level.

Given how much the coaching staff raves about him, I doubt it?s Freddie.

I thought Nielsen?s stock had already fallen, but perhaps he still has some of his Junior shine remaining.
 
Could Bourne be talking about Borgman perhaps? After making the team after training camp last fall other teams might be higher on him then they should be for a guy that is a 5-7 guy at best in the NHL
 
I don't know much about Bourne and his writing but it strikes me as an odd point to be making about someone that most fans consider to be a fairly minor NHL prospect at best which, to be honest, strikes me as applying to all of the names that have been mentioned so far.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't know much about Bourne and his writing but it strikes me as an odd point to be making about someone that most fans consider to be a fairly minor NHL prospect at best which, to be honest, strikes me as applying to all of the names that have been mentioned so far.
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Agreed. The only players I can't think of that may have relative performance-based trade value from the  Marlies Calder run would be Sparks and Johnsson. Anyone else, and I wouldn't even bother really making a point of it in the context of the quote.
 
caveman said:
would anyone do Nylander and Gardiner for Karlsson ? if he agreed to a contract extension....
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That's a HELL NO from me.  Karlsson is NOT good enough playing defense.  If we needed a high scoring rover from the back end, then maybe.  However, I don't think I would part with Nylander straight up for him at this point.
 
Al14 said:
caveman said:
would anyone do Nylander and Gardiner for Karlsson ? if he agreed to a contract extension....
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That's a HELL NO from me.  Karlsson is NOT good enough playing defense.  If we needed a high scoring rover from the back end, then maybe.  However, I don't think I would part with Nylander straight up for him at this point.
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Neither would I.  Not because Karlsson is no good, heck he's one of the best out there no matter whether he's 100% or not, but because Nylander is one player I do not want to see the Leafs lose at such a young age.

If Karlsson were to anchor the defence, he would probably be playing ever more minutes (or just as many minutes as he had done for Ottawa), which means possibly more injuries as well.  The Leafs will be depending on him aplenty back there and with his shot from the point.  It would be asking too much for a 'veteran' like him to carry the load at a time when he is no longer quite the same as he once was in in younger days.

So, no, acquiring Karlsson would essentially amount to taking a gamble in more ways than one, for better and for worse.

As for Gardiner, well, it's tempting to want to take Karlsson over him anytime, but then, would we be losing Gardiner's speed, etc.?  Again, I'd hesitate even if we could get Karlsson in a trade for Player X + Gardiner.
 
My only hesitation would be cap implications.

Ignoring that, I would take Karlsson for Nylander without even batting an eye. Honestly, it's a ridiculous suggestion though. I think people are seriously overvaluing Nylander or seriously undervaluing Karlsson -- he of two Norris trophies. Over the last two seasons, Karlsson has outscored every Maple Leaf except Matthews.
 
Bullfrog said:
My only hesitation would be cap implications.

Ignoring that, I would take Karlsson for Nylander without even batting an eye. Honestly, it's a ridiculous suggestion though. I think people are seriously overvaluing Nylander or seriously undervaluing Karlsson -- he of two Norris trophies. Over the last two seasons, Karlsson has outscored every Maple Leaf except Matthews.
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So, it's addition by subtraction, or perhaps subtraction by addition?
 
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