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Armchair GM 2018-2019

herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I really think your forward to trade is Kadri. I get that he's on a fantastic deal but that fantastic deal, paired with back 2 back 32 goal seasons makes him a pretty good asset.

Slot Nylander in at the Center position and you now have 3 lines with pretty fantastic hockey players down the middle(not that Kadri isn't a fantastic player).

Other than the Leafs centre depth being not great outside of the top 9, I agree the route to solving the cap crunch lies south of the top 4 forwards. It?s a position of strength because of Nylander. Like trading Zaitsev should probably be the new priority once Liljegren/Sandin look likely to make the jump.

I think there's some serviceable centres in the minors and probably a few that could be had relatively cheaply to create a little depth.

Add Rosen to the list of defensemen that may be able to replace Zaitsev.
 
https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/is-a-william-nylander-trade-in-the-leafs-future-here-are-8-possible-teams
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/quick-shifts-toronto-maple-leafs-william-nylander-trade-rfa-canucks/

Two articles today that discuss the possibility of moving Nylander and some of the names that could be of interest to the Leafs. Here are some of the defencemen that are brought up: Hjalmarsson, Demers, Spurgeon, Manson, Tanev, Edler, Larsson, Nurse, Pulock, Skjei, and last but not least (ok actually least) Erik Gudbranson.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/is-a-william-nylander-trade-in-the-leafs-future-here-are-8-possible-teams
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/quick-shifts-toronto-maple-leafs-william-nylander-trade-rfa-canucks/

Two articles today that discuss the possibility of moving Nylander and some of the names that could be of interest to the Leafs. Here are some of the defencemen that are brought up: Hjalmarsson, Demers, Spurgeon, Manson, Tanev, Edler, Larsson, Nurse, Pulock, Skjei, and last but not least (ok actually least) Erik Gudbranson.

Lol
 
herman said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/is-a-william-nylander-trade-in-the-leafs-future-here-are-8-possible-teams
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/quick-shifts-toronto-maple-leafs-william-nylander-trade-rfa-canucks/

Two articles today that discuss the possibility of moving Nylander and some of the names that could be of interest to the Leafs. Here are some of the defencemen that are brought up: Hjalmarsson, Demers, Spurgeon, Manson, Tanev, Edler, Larsson, Nurse, Pulock, Skjei, and last but not least (ok actually least) Erik Gudbranson.

Lol

From the article: "Or could Erik Gudbranson be a starting point?". No Michael, he couldn't.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/is-a-william-nylander-trade-in-the-leafs-future-here-are-8-possible-teams
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/quick-shifts-toronto-maple-leafs-william-nylander-trade-rfa-canucks/

Two articles today that discuss the possibility of moving Nylander and some of the names that could be of interest to the Leafs. Here are some of the defencemen that are brought up: Hjalmarsson, Demers, Spurgeon, Manson, Tanev, Edler, Larsson, Nurse, Pulock, Skjei, and last but not least (ok actually least) Erik Gudbranson.

I don't think there's a single name on that list that I'd trade Nylander for straight up.  Nurse might be the closest, but I'm still hesitant.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I really think your forward to trade is Kadri. I get that he's on a fantastic deal but that fantastic deal, paired with back 2 back 32 goal seasons makes him a pretty good asset.

Slot Nylander in at the Center position and you now have 3 lines with pretty fantastic hockey players down the middle(not that Kadri isn't a fantastic player).

Other than the Leafs centre depth being not great outside of the top 9, I agree the route to solving the cap crunch lies south of the top 4 forwards. It?s a position of strength because of Nylander. Like trading Zaitsev should probably be the new priority once Liljegren/Sandin look likely to make the jump.

I think there's some serviceable centres in the minors and probably a few that could be had relatively cheaply to create a little depth.

Add Rosen to the list of defensemen that may be able to replace Zaitsev.

Other than Brooks, our Marlie centres are loans or career AHLers. If we move Kadri and slot Nylander there, we are one inconvenient injury from Tampa Bay 2016-17. Nylander and Kadri are insurance against that.

It?s not likely we are drafting a Kadri-caliber centre for the next long while. We already saw UFA forwards dropping their asks to be part of this scoring committee so maybe something on the market will make sense, but I generally prefer not to buy players unless it?s a needle-mover (John Tavares).

I think Zaitsev brings a unique element to the backend that isn?t immediately replaceable today, but I can see a deadline deal for someone like Nick Jensen being a valid substitute when that move is made.
 
louisstamos said:
I don't think there's a single name on that list that I'd trade Nylander for straight up.  Nurse might be the closest, but I'm still hesitant.

Manson would be an easy yes from me, but Anaheim would be stupid to move him.  Defensively sound, and showed an offensive side to his game last year.
 
The Sportsnet column isn't quite as bad as the Traikos one, but still... not much doing.

Parayko's the only name between them both I'd do straight up.

Dumba, Spurgeon, Manson, Montour, Demers, Nurse, Tanev I could see if other stuff's coming back the other way -- in most cases, it'd have to be a lot (high-end prospect, pick).
 
mr grieves said:
Parayko's the only name between them both I'd do straight up.

In terms of potentially available defencemen, Parayko and Trouba are the only guys I'd do a straight up trade for. But I still don't think it makes sense for Winnipeg or St. Louis. I just don't think either team can really afford to lose those defencemen.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
mr grieves said:
Parayko's the only name between them both I'd do straight up.

In terms of potentially available defencemen, Parayko and Trouba are the only guys I'd do a straight up trade for. But I still don't think it makes sense for Winnipeg or St. Louis. I just don't think either team can really afford to lose those defencemen.

No, I don't think they're very good trade partners -- neither's hurting for forwards, both need young, high-end defensemen. Maybe Parayko and Kyrou or Thomas for Nylander and Liljegren, if the teams, for no good reason that I can see, want to keep their forward/defense talent a net 0 (more or less) and flip ages around.
 
Am I the only one that thinks they should try to extend Gardiner, like, now? If we're floating Nylander for some of those names, to me, it just shows the value of keeping what we have. Jake's had a rough start, and maybe is having a few confidence issues, particularly going into a contract year.. maybe he'd be happy to be part of this going forward and get back on track - I'd be very comfortable giving him Zaitsev money and term... and moving Zaitsev.
 
Frycer14 said:
Am I the only one that thinks they should try to extend Gardiner, like, now? If we're floating Nylander for some of those names, to me, it just shows the value of keeping what we have. Jake's had a rough start, and maybe is having a few confidence issues, particularly going into a contract year.. maybe he'd be happy to be part of this going forward and get back on track - I'd be very comfortable giving him Zaitsev money and term... and moving Zaitsev.

I think they should trade him at the deadline.  :-[
 
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
I really think your forward to trade is Kadri. I get that he's on a fantastic deal but that fantastic deal, paired with back 2 back 32 goal seasons makes him a pretty good asset.

Slot Nylander in at the Center position and you now have 3 lines with pretty fantastic hockey players down the middle(not that Kadri isn't a fantastic player).

Other than the Leafs centre depth being not great outside of the top 9, I agree the route to solving the cap crunch lies south of the top 4 forwards. It?s a position of strength because of Nylander. Like trading Zaitsev should probably be the new priority once Liljegren/Sandin look likely to make the jump.

I think there's some serviceable centres in the minors and probably a few that could be had relatively cheaply to create a little depth.

Add Rosen to the list of defensemen that may be able to replace Zaitsev.

Other than Brooks, our Marlie centres are loans or career AHLers. If we move Kadri and slot Nylander there, we are one inconvenient injury from Tampa Bay 2016-17. Nylander and Kadri are insurance against that.

It?s not likely we are drafting a Kadri-caliber centre for the next long while. We already saw UFA forwards dropping their asks to be part of this scoring committee so maybe something on the market will make sense, but I generally prefer not to buy players unless it?s a needle-mover (John Tavares).

I think Zaitsev brings a unique element to the backend that isn?t immediately replaceable today, but I can see a deadline deal for someone like Nick Jensen being a valid substitute when that move is made.

While I agree that replacing Kadri isn't an easy task, and probably not doable, this team will need to give up some of their secondary strengths to keep the top 4 under contract.

As for Zaitsev, I'm curious as to what that unique element is that isn't immediately replaceable? Not doubting, just wondering.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
While I agree that replacing Kadri isn't an easy task, and probably not doable, this team will need to give up some of their secondary strengths to keep the top 4 under contract.

As for Zaitsev, I'm curious as to what that unique element is that isn't immediately replaceable? Not doubting, just wondering.

Yeah I agree secondary depth is what should be plumbed for cap room. This is where is might be wise to trade off a Babcock-favourite as the opportunity arises: his valuation is, I think, esteemed by the traditional hockey man, and there could be some additional weight in a trade. If our development group does it right, they can just make new favourites.

Zaitsev diversifies our defence portfolio in that he?s a heavy presence. We?ve got a lot of go defenders, we don?t really have any stop defenders. Ozhiganov is probably the closest in the system.

 
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
While I agree that replacing Kadri isn't an easy task, and probably not doable, this team will need to give up some of their secondary strengths to keep the top 4 under contract.

As for Zaitsev, I'm curious as to what that unique element is that isn't immediately replaceable? Not doubting, just wondering.

Yeah I agree secondary depth is what should be plumbed for cap room. This is where is might be wise to trade off a Babcock-favourite as the opportunity arises: his valuation is, I think, esteemed by the traditional hockey man, and there could be some additional weight in a trade. If our development group does it right, they can just make new favourites.

Zaitsev diversifies our defence portfolio in that he?s a heavy presence. We?ve got a lot of go defenders, we don?t really have any stop defenders. Ozhiganov is probably the closest in the system.

I've never thought of Zaitsev as a "heavy presence" on the blue line but I'll watch with more of an interest now.
 
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
While I agree that replacing Kadri isn't an easy task, and probably not doable, this team will need to give up some of their secondary strengths to keep the top 4 under contract.
Yeah I agree secondary depth is what should be plumbed for cap room. This is where is might be wise to trade off a Babcock-favourite as the opportunity arises: his valuation is, I think, esteemed by the traditional hockey man, and there could be some additional weight in a trade. If our development group does it right, they can just make new favourites.

Yeah, when I was fooling around with CapFriendly, the guys who start looking overpaid once the big-four are under contract, after Marleau of course, are Brown and Hyman. Both are highly replaceable with ELC players, provided the development program is what they say it is.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
herman said:
OldTimeHockey said:
While I agree that replacing Kadri isn't an easy task, and probably not doable, this team will need to give up some of their secondary strengths to keep the top 4 under contract.

As for Zaitsev, I'm curious as to what that unique element is that isn't immediately replaceable? Not doubting, just wondering.

Yeah I agree secondary depth is what should be plumbed for cap room. This is where is might be wise to trade off a Babcock-favourite as the opportunity arises: his valuation is, I think, esteemed by the traditional hockey man, and there could be some additional weight in a trade. If our development group does it right, they can just make new favourites.

Zaitsev diversifies our defence portfolio in that he?s a heavy presence. We?ve got a lot of go defenders, we don?t really have any stop defenders. Ozhiganov is probably the closest in the system.

I've never thought of Zaitsev as a "heavy presence" on the blue line but I'll watch with more of an interest now.

Babcock thinks Zaitsev is basically the Hyman of the backend. He?s relatively fearless with physical engagement to body players off the puck for Gardiner or a forward to scoop up. Of course that is not a particularly high hurdle.
 
https://mapleleafsnation.com/2018/10/25/the-leafs-should-look-to-acquire-jesse-puljujarvi/

An area where the Leafs are not lacking is in the RWer with defensive-liabilities department.
But an area where the Leafs ARE lacking is in the BIG winger department.

Jesse Puljujarvi was scratched by the Oilers last night; they've consistently struggled finding a fit for him, and we all suspect they're just shanking the development completely. How about we reunite McDavid with his Erie running mate, Connor Brown.
 

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