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Ashton up, Holland down

Bullfrog said:
Potvin29 said:
@reporterchris

Carter Ashton will play centre for the #leafs. Randy Carlyle says Peter Holland was demoted because he wasn't fit to be a fourth-liner.

So, instead of putting him on the third line and playing McClement on the 4th, the solution is to demote him to the minors?

Or, I don't know, maybe play the forth line more?

Too logical.  Must demote Holland and bring up another young player to play 5:00 per night.
 
If they came out and said "We did this just to keep the 2nd round pick even though Holland's good enough for the team" could they get fined for that?  Because you're always supposed to ice your best possible team regardless of other considerations etc etc?
 
Crucialness Key said:
Well sure but you could achieve that without demoting Holland.

Of course. But I'm trying to argue that this move was Carlyle's idea to create a 4th line that he prefers, not Nonis trying to send him a message. In his eyes I think it's clear he would rather have 3 outta 4 of Ashton, D'Amigo, Orr and McLaren playing those 5 minutes than Holland. Even if none of them are centres.
 
I'd be totally fine with an Ashton-McClement-D'Amigo 4th line.  Ashton and McClement can cycle the puck, Ashton likes to play physical, D'Amigo has speed, they'd be fairly defensively responsible and you could throw that line out there ~10:00 per night if you wanted to.  Wouldn't expect much offense, but certainly more than the 4th line provides now.
 
Potvin29 said:
I'd be totally fine with an Ashton-McClement-D'Amigo 4th line.  Ashton and McClement can cycle the puck, Ashton likes to play physical, D'Amigo has speed, they'd be fairly defensively responsible and you could throw that line out there ~10:00 per night if you wanted to.  Wouldn't expect much offense, but certainly more than the 4th line provides now.

I agree, that line was in my opening night roster line-up I believe.
 
BlueWhiteBlood said:
Potvin29 said:
I'd be totally fine with an Ashton-McClement-D'Amigo 4th line.  Ashton and McClement can cycle the puck, Ashton likes to play physical, D'Amigo has speed, they'd be fairly defensively responsible and you could throw that line out there ~10:00 per night if you wanted to.  Wouldn't expect much offense, but certainly more than the 4th line provides now.

I agree, that line was in my opening night roster line-up I believe.

At the very least you'd be giving some younger players a chance to play rather than Orr/McLaren.
 
Potvin29 said:
At the very least you'd be giving some younger players a chance to play rather than Orr/McLaren.

It is my opinion that Orr nor McLaren should even play if there isn't a tough guy playing on the other side and even then, I'd weigh the options. I would have waived McLaren at the beginning of the season frankly.
 
The only reason he's been sent down is for that look he gave during 24/7 when Reimer told him Bernier was straying the next game.
 
Hope_Smoke: Dreger on TSN Radio "sending Holland down was a mgmt move."

Hope_Smoke: Dreger " It was made clear to the coaching staff that if they weren't going to use Holland than they were going to take him away from them"

Hope_Smoke: Dreger "Nonis can't tell Carlyle who to play, but Holland needs ice time. No reason he's averaging, what? Six minutes?"
 

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