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Ben Scrivens

Potvin29 said:
Zee said:
Highlander said:
I'd still like to see Matt on our third line instead of McClement whom should be fourth for sure. But what the hay, it will be interesting to follow some of these guys down the road.

McClement is valuable in killing penalties and winning draws, I don't think Frattin would fit the same role.

Well he didn't say McClement shouldn't be on the team.  Playing on the 4th line you can still kill penalties and win draws.

Sure but I don't see what Frattin brings to the 3rd line?  He's the worst +/- on the Kings who happen to be a very good defensive team.
 
He showed some flashes of brilliance before his Knee injury..perhaps he will find it again but agreed on what you have said.
 
Highlander said:
He showed some flashes of brilliance before his Knee injury..perhaps he will find it again but agreed on what you have said.

I still don't forgive Frattin for not scoring on the breakaway in game 7 when he could have made the score 5-2 Leafs with about 3 minutes to play.  :-/
 
Frattin has 2 goals in his last 43 NHL games (playoffs included). I was a little upset that he was traded too, but I was more interested in the idea of a dirt-cheap 2nd/3rd line winger. If he can't play to that level it doesn't really matter what his salary is.
 
Some thoughts on Scrivens from Elliotte Friedman:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2013/11/30-thoughts-nhl-thrilled-by-media-rights-bonanza.html said:
15. A stick tap to Hockey Night colleague Kevin Weekes on this one. The Los Angeles Kings made a couple of subtle changes to Ben Scrivens' style after getting him from the Toronto Maple Leafs. Scrivens went to California in August to meet with goalie coach Bill Ranford and Kim Dillabaugh, who is in charge of goalie development (he also works for the WHL Kelowna Rockets). The two men worked with Scrivens to alter both the elbow and hand position on his catching arm.

16. Scrivens' glove hand was a source of controversy in Toronto (isn't everything a controversy there?) because he held it in a claw-like manner. "The first step for Bill and I is to ask why Ben plays the position the way he does, his philosophy and reasons for doing things," Dillabaugh said Tuesday. "I don't think there are two goaltenders who hold the glove identically. We wanted to allow Ben to be better able to react effectively with his hand. His elbow was elevated ... We brought it down and put his hands out a little more in front of body."

17. The tinkering certainly has helped. With Jonathan Quick injured, Scrivens is flourishing. His 1.44-goals against average and .947 save percentage are very impressive. But Dillabaugh refuses to let he and Ranford take too much credit. "Ben's a tremendous student of the game, thoughtful and detailed," he said. "He understood what we were looking to do, worked hard and made it to become habit for him ... He really did a good job of taking what we asked him to do and applying it."
 
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CarltonTheBear said:
"The first step for Bill and I is to ask why Ben plays the position the way he does, his philosophy and reasons for doing things,"

Obviously we have no idea what the coaching staff here did, but they certainly didn't get the results that these guys are getting or seem to make any changes.  Pretty frustrating that something we all picked up on as casual fans (what is up with the glove) makes no improvement or change while he's here, but then he goes somewhere else and the first thing their coaching staff does is go "what is up with the glove let's fix it". 

Sometimes I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, but when you see things like the Allaire adventure (many of us doubting, Leafs defend, then he gets dumped IIRC) and then LA's coaching staff reacting the same way to Scrivens' weird glove position it really does look like the Leafs are just that clueless and lost somehow.
 
Scrivens traded to Edmonton for a 3rd round pick.

He gets to work with Eakins again, and I guess a chance to claim the number 1 spot. I thought he was doing a decent job for LA, but with the emergence of that other guy and Quick coming back I guess 3 into 2 didn't go.
 
Arn said:
Scrivens traded to Edmonton for a 3rd round pick.

He gets to work with Eakins again, and I guess a chance to claim the number 1 spot. I thought he was doing a decent job for LA, but with the emergence of that other guy and Quick coming back I guess 3 into 2 didn't go.

Scrivens will feel back at home with that Oilers defense.  LA was far too stingy for him.
 
Zee said:
Arn said:
Scrivens traded to Edmonton for a 3rd round pick.

He gets to work with Eakins again, and I guess a chance to claim the number 1 spot. I thought he was doing a decent job for LA, but with the emergence of that other guy and Quick coming back I guess 3 into 2 didn't go.

Scrivens will feel back at home with that Oilers defense.  LA was far too stingy for him.

Yep. His numbers are about to severely drop.
 
Scrivens is an average NHL goaltender. I think we'll clearly see that once again as he suits up for the Oilers now. 4-1 loss in his first start last night.
 
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