Brad Treliving is new Leafs GM
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bustaheims
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Joe said:
I?m going to say having to stay in Calgary was the biggest factor for those moves. Gaudreau wanted to be closer to home and Tkachuk wanted to be not in Calgary. After that, Kadri was the best available UFA that could plug the holes left by those two wanting to not be in Cowtown. I don?t put too much on Treliving there.
louisstamos
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CarltonTheBear said:
After the playoffs, my thought was they should let go of both Keefe and Shannahan and keep/promote Dubas. It's weird to see them go with the exact opposite...
dappleganger
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bustaheims said:
*Or, pure speculation on my part, did they hate playing for the coach the GM picked to coach the team?
https://ca.style.yahoo.com/nhl-report-multiple-flames-players-rescinded-trade-requests-after-darryl-sutter-firing-151715990.html
Dappleganger said:
For whatever it's worth, most reports seem to say it was Calgary ownership that hired (and then extended) Sutter over Treliving's head.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah. I'm sure Sutter had an influence, but it definitely felt like he was forced on Treliving rather than chosen by him.
And, as messy as the ownership situation is here, I can't envision that happening.
bustaheims said:
Furthermore Friedman wrote that it's believed a big reason Treliving left the Flames was because of his "deteriorating relationship with Sutter". At the time Sutter still had 2 years left on his contract and it seemed like ownership was standing with him. He was fired a couple weeks later, almost certainly once the trade requests from players became too much to ignore.
dappleganger
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CarltonTheBear said:
Interesting if true... would definitely change my opinion on a few things. I didn't see "Calgary" as the reason two star players left, I really thought it was Sutter.
Dappleganger said:
I won't go as far as to say they were anti-Canada or anti-Calgary, but I think it was also pretty clear they both wanted to play in the States. Tkachuk's reported list of teams he would sign long-term deals with if Calgary dealt him there were: Florida, Nashville, Dallas, Vegas, and St. Louis. Gaudreau obviously had his sights set on Columbus, New Jersey, or Philly.
bustaheims said:
I?m pretty sure Tkachuk had said he would have signed long term but the team would only offer him a bridge contract.
I?m telling you this guy is going to come in and make a terrible trade for nylander and somehow mess up the Matthews negotiation.
No one is perfect, but this whole Dubas thing is stupid. I feel this team is going to regress to Burke level mismanagement.
bustaheims
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CarltonTheBear said:
They are both American, so that definitely had some influence. I don't know if it was specifically an anti-Calgary stance, but Calgary was definitely further away from where they wanted to be than a lot of other NHL cities.
If Gaudreau had been a Leaf the whole time, I suspect he would have felt he was close enough to his family that it wouldn't have been the same issue. With Tkachuk, I'm not sure - though, being close to his brother and being on opposite sides of that rivalry also might have swayed his mind.
bustaheims
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Joe said:
He was dealt because he specifically said he wouldn't sign a long-term deal in Calgary.
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1663929269876060160
dappleganger
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Joe said:
If you you look at what Treliving just dealt with in Calgary, star players on expiring deals, and if you evaluate how he dealt with that, I'd say he'd not be the one you'd want dealing with, checks notes, Matthews and Nylander on expiring deals.
I dunno, maybe he learned from his mistakes.
