Guru Tugginmypuddah
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CarltonTheBear said:
YOU'RE FIRED.
Brad Treliving is new Leafs GM
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YOU'RE FIRED.
L K said:
I mostly hate that it sets up another lame duck situation with Keefe only having 1 more season on his deal. First losing streak of the year and the calls for Keefe's head will be extreme.
Champ Kind
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CarltonTheBear said:
".....my F-word and ME" (not I in that context)
CarltonTheBear said:
For me it's less about what Brian Burke did, and more of just the lack of a plan or execution of one. I look at it this way. By all accounts, I believed that Dubas was trying to win a cup desperately. He appeared to be learning each year and would apply that knowledge to what he wanted to do with the team the next. I think the trade deadline this year was an example of where he may have updated his approach in the hopes of giving the team a better shot at winning the cup.
Was Dubas perfect? No far from it. For example, in the bubble year, where he made no moves at the deadline because he didn't think the team had much of a chance. Okay, if you believe that, then why not trade some pieces for the future? You knew you were going to lose Barrie for nothing. Move him out and get something for him if you feel the team isn't where it needs to be for a long playoff run. Still, I believed that Dubas was invested in winning a cup.
Do I think Treliving is invested in winning a cup? I think he would like to win a cup, but he lasted 9 years in Calgary with middling results. It strikes me as the type of guy who knows how not to rock a boat, and if that is the case, is he really the type of GM that is going to take a chance to try and put this team over the top to win a cup?
Significantly Insignificant said:
It's been an up and down performance in Calgary for sure. He wouldn't be the hire I'd make but I'm willing to give him a shot. I think he probably had to deal with an equal or more meddling board in Calgary. I also don't think he's exactly gunshy on a deal, so I think taking a chance isn't the issue, it's if he'll take the right one.
bustaheims
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Significantly Insignificant said:
I agree that his results in Calgary are largely uninspiring, but, it's not like he didn't make major moves to try to improve the team. There a number of big trades, some impactful UFA signings, etc. He was definitely trying to win. He just didn't succeed. Whether that was on him or ownership foisting a coach upon him, or a variety of other factors is hard to say. I don't think he's the best GM, but I think his track record is being seen in more of a negative light than it probably should be. He put together a really good, competitive team in Calgary. If they were able to convert on their chances at even an average rate and got reasonable to good goaltending out of Markstrom, he'd still be with the Flames. Their xGF and xGA numbers were excellent (7th and 4th respectively). It's just that their shooting percentage was the worst in the league and their save percentage wasn't much better.
Highlander
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Topi to a multi million 20 year deal????Arn said:
Under the circumstances, it could have been worse. Can't say I'm thrilled or super excited.
It's not JFJ or Gord Stellick. It's not Sam Pollack either. I have mixed feelings about him.
They needed to get someone quickly. They did that. I like that he's got a month before July 1st to figure some things out.
Following a minor pro hockey career, he has about two decades in NHL management.
He seems to be well regarded around the league. Many of the Calgary fans still like him and felt his selection of coaches was his biggest shortcoming.
He's a good communicator with the media which, as JFJ could tell us, is important in Toronto.
He has a very short runway to a very difficult job. Fingers crossed.
It's not JFJ or Gord Stellick. It's not Sam Pollack either. I have mixed feelings about him.
They needed to get someone quickly. They did that. I like that he's got a month before July 1st to figure some things out.
Following a minor pro hockey career, he has about two decades in NHL management.
He seems to be well regarded around the league. Many of the Calgary fans still like him and felt his selection of coaches was his biggest shortcoming.
He's a good communicator with the media which, as JFJ could tell us, is important in Toronto.
He has a very short runway to a very difficult job. Fingers crossed.
Bill_Berg
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It's funny how a team's success is on the GM, when we're talking about GMs. When we're talking coaches, it's on the coach. GMs are only one small part of the team. They may do the best job ever and if the other pieces don't pull their weight, it's not the GM's fault. It seems clear to me that Sutter was the problem in Calgary last year at least.
