Bruins @ Leafs - Jan. 12th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

[herman]

I think we are playing well, getting confirmation that when we play right we can bury teams. We are also getting the lesson that when we take our foot off the gas even slightly against good teams, we can get burned.

True, but do they really still need to learn that lesson?

If you?ve ever had to teach teenagers and young adults before, then you know it?s a lot of repetition and learning by doing and each person is going to turn that corner at a different rate.

I almost think it wasn't so much letting their foot of the gas as it was a brain cramp that led to a goal.

It was a release of focus. They had the numbers down low and fresh off a change that they knew the Bruins were also on.

But that also means they?re drifting into their spots and not as aware of what?s behind them. Lots of goals happen in these transition points for that reason.

 

[lc9]

I don?t care what anyone thinks I can?t wait til Gardiner is gone
Awful

He makes it harder for the leafs to be successful. He has to go.

He's literally the 2nd best option on D and you want to get rid of him. Sure he makes mistakes like every guy out there but he also drives offense like other Leafs D not named Rielly don't.

I simply disagree.  I hope they move him or let him walk.

You can disagree all you want the stats don't back you up in any way.

Hockey still paints a nice picture via the eye test. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

So Chris Johnson said something kinda interesting on that panel. He said if Hutchinson plays on Monday then he'll have played 10 games since clearing waivers (4 with Florida, 6 with the Leafs) and he'd need to clear waivers again if the Leafs want to send him down.

But Hutchinson was recalled on an "emergency basis", and the CBA says that the waiver expiration rules don't apply in that situation. So I'm not sure Johnson is right there.

edit: Sorry, there's another passage right below that I didn't read. It says a player needs to play 10 games while on emergency recall for his waivers to have expired. So the 4 games with Florida shouldn't count I believe. If it was a regular recall, those 4 games would have counted.

 

[Zee]

I don?t care what anyone thinks I can?t wait til Gardiner is gone
Awful

He makes it harder for the leafs to be successful. He has to go.

He's literally the 2nd best option on D and you want to get rid of him. Sure he makes mistakes like every guy out there but he also drives offense like other Leafs D not named Rielly don't.

I simply disagree.  I hope they move him or let him walk.

You can disagree all you want the stats don't back you up in any way.

Hockey still paints a nice picture via the eye test.

He's literally paired with the worst dman on the Leafs. Zaitsev is brutal in every way. Give him a real partner and things would look a lot better

 

[Guilt Trip]

I don?t care what anyone thinks I can?t wait til Gardiner is gone
Awful

He makes it harder for the leafs to be successful. He has to go.

He's literally the 2nd best option on D and you want to get rid of him. Sure he makes mistakes like every guy out there but he also drives offense like other Leafs D not named Rielly don't.

I simply disagree.  I hope they move him or let him walk.

You can disagree all you want the stats don't back you up in any way.

My eyes stat tell me he's horrible defensively. He's a Butter soft D man and that simply isn't good enough come playoff time. It isn't good now. He's consistently bad and not wining puck/position battles.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Regardless of who's to blame, I'd like to see that Gardiner-Zaitsev pairing broken up somehow. Even if Babs doesn't want to touch the top pairing why not just try Gardiner-Oz and Dermott-Zaitsev for awhile?

 

[Highlander]

Gotta put the foot no the throat and make them bleed (just enough), think Lou would help us out and take Zaitsev back?  Gardiner, take the bad Jake TM out of town on your expressway.

 

[Bender]

I don?t care what anyone thinks I can?t wait til Gardiner is gone
Awful

He makes it harder for the leafs to be successful. He has to go.

He's literally the 2nd best option on D and you want to get rid of him. Sure he makes mistakes like every guy out there but he also drives offense like other Leafs D not named Rielly don't.

I simply disagree.  I hope they move him or let him walk.

You can disagree all you want the stats don't back you up in any way.

My eyes stat tell me he's horrible defensively. He's a Butter soft D man and that simply isn't good enough come playoff time. It isn't good now. He's consistently bad and not wining puck/position battles.

Lol shadows of Larry Murphy. We always need a whipping boy. Rather than targeting our actual crappy players like Hainsey/Zaitsev and supporting good player with good partners we target the ones who generally push play in our favour, but aren't hard enough and who will make a major gaffe once in a while.

You have to decide what warts you're willing to live with and I really don't want 37yo Hainsey and piss poor Zaitsev or even Ozhiganov vs Gardiner. So if that's the case do we change two D lines entirely? Because that doesn't seem likely.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Regardless of who's to blame, I'd like to see that Gardiner-Zaitsev pairing broken up somehow. Even if Babs doesn't want to touch the top pairing why not just try Gardiner-Oz and Dermott-Zaitsev for awhile?

When I said "Oz" I of course meant "Oz or like literally anybody else too".

 

[herman]

Regardless of who's to blame, I'd like to see that Gardiner-Zaitsev pairing broken up somehow. Even if Babs doesn't want to touch the top pairing why not just try Gardiner-Oz and Dermott-Zaitsev for awhile?

When I said "Oz" I of course meant "Oz or like literally anybody else too".

Yeah no Oz pls.

Gardiner-Holl would be fun.

 

[TML fan]

Boston is just locking it down now.

 

[ZBBM]

Hey, Coach, here's an observation: The Bruins eat Gardiner/Zaitsev for a snack.

 

[TML fan]

This period looks like the Leafs are trying not to lose by more than 1 goal. Take some chances guys!

 

[Guilt Trip]

I don?t care what anyone thinks I can?t wait til Gardiner is gone
Awful

He makes it harder for the leafs to be successful. He has to go.

He's literally the 2nd best option on D and you want to get rid of him. Sure he makes mistakes like every guy out there but he also drives offense like other Leafs D not named Rielly don't.

I simply disagree.  I hope they move him or let him walk.

You can disagree all you want the stats don't back you up in any way.

My eyes stat tell me he's horrible defensively. He's a Butter soft D man and that simply isn't good enough come playoff time. It isn't good now. He's consistently bad and not wining puck/position battles.

Lol shadows of Larry Murphy. We always need a whipping boy. Rather than targeting our actual crappy players like Hainsey/Zaitsev and supporting good player with good partners we target the ones who generally push play in our favour, but aren't hard enough and who will make a major gaffe once in a while.

You have to decide what warts you're willing to live with and I really don't want 37yo Hainsey and piss poor Zaitsev or even Ozhiganov vs Gardiner. So if that's the case do we change two D lines entirely? Because that doesn't seem likely.

Just because Zaitsev and Hainsey are crap doesn't mean Jake is good. He isn't and can be lumped in the same category as the other 2 dumpster fires. All 3 can go bye bye.

 

[azzurri63]

I think we are playing well, getting confirmation that when we play right we can bury teams. We are also getting the lesson that when we take our foot off the gas even slightly against good teams, we can get burned.

True, but do they really still need to learn that lesson?

If you?ve ever had to teach teenagers and young adults before, then you know it?s a lot of repetition and learning by doing and each person is going to turn that corner at a different rate.

They?re professional athletes for god sakes not two year olds.

 

[herman]

Dermott getting some extra shifts.

 

[Bender]

Everyone's looking like they're squeezing their sticks too hard.

 

[herman]

I think we are playing well, getting confirmation that when we play right we can bury teams. We are also getting the lesson that when we take our foot off the gas even slightly against good teams, we can get burned.

True, but do they really still need to learn that lesson?

If you?ve ever had to teach teenagers and young adults before, then you know it?s a lot of repetition and learning by doing and each person is going to turn that corner at a different rate.

They?re professional athletes for god sakes not two year olds.

Yeah I guess they should just throw more hits like adults.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Man Kadri's in one of those "he'll never score again" phases.

 

[Highlander]

There is far to much negativity on this site. Your energy and belief can fire this team, don't care if you don't believe this.  We have a great team that needs a little defensive help. We have all agreed with Fredo in the net tonight this would have been our game.