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Canadiens @ Leafs - May 31st, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

TheMightyOdin said:
I?m already preparing my points for tomorrow at work with the stupid Habs fans.

?I know, it?s embarrassing losing to such a bad team like Montreal..?
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I feel fortunate to (1) work from home and (2) live in the US, so I don't have to deal with any of them - other than on the internet. And I can avoid those.
 
Eh, I'm disappointed like always but there's always the mystery of what they need to do to finally get past this crap.

Dubas:
* Got a decent b/u who turned out to be a starter when he had to be
* Added two veteran d-men who made our defense much, much better
* Added what looked like valuable grit/stability with Foligno

I've been a Dubas critic in the past but this past season I can't fault his moves.  What we can fault him on are some of the contracts, and no I'm not talking about Nylander who earned his dough this series.

I guess all that's left is to try to change the core.
 
Derk said:
For me, this is the most humiliating playoff loss I have experienced as a Leafs fan. Boston was brutal and yes, disappointing. But losing this series when up 3-1 against a team that was so far behind in the standings, and the Habs to boot (the team I have always disliked the most), well, that takes the cake for me. I feel completely frustrated and dejected at the same time.

I don't know what else to say.
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Derek my sentiments exactly.
 
TML fan said:
Signing John Tavares crippled this team.
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I've thought that at times as well. But it was that plus the combination of overpaying the 3 others AND not selling JVR/Bozak when they had the chance. A lot of things have come together to result in the current situation.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Eh, I'm disappointed like always but there's always the mystery of what they need to do to finally get past this crap.

Dubas:
* Got a decent b/u who turned out to be a starter when he had to be
* Added two veteran d-men who made our defense much, much better
* Added what looked like valuable grit/stability with Foligno

I've been a Dubas critic in the past but this past season I can't fault his moves.  What we can fault him on are some of the contracts, and no I'm not talking about Nylander who earned his dough this series.

I guess all that's left is to try to change the core.
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Yeah, I think the Nylander contract is turning out to be pretty good for the Leafs, all things considered.
 
bustaheims said:
Marner needed to be better. Matthews needed to be better. Everyone other than like Nylander and Spezza needed to be better.
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I'm actually not sour on Matthews. Hyman and Marner are a different story. Losing Tavares and not getting the goaltending they needed in game 5 was killer. Such a game of inches. Price was the difference
 
Stronger Than All said:
As for changes ... What are we gonna do?  Matthews is a superstar.  I do regret buying a Marner jersey this year that's all I can say
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Marner will take all kinds of deserved heat but Matthews has to bear just as much, even if he was dinged.
 
The JVR/Bozak moves definitely still reverberate.  But my God, this team should have won this series no matter what.
 
Even if blowing up the core isn't feasible (e.g. trading Marner) do nothing to augment them like this season.

Stockpile picks and prospects, give as many opportunities (and extended ones at that) to youth as possible. Trade expiring contracts at the deadline when possible.
 
Stronger Than All said:
As for changes ... What are we gonna do?  Matthews is a superstar.  I do regret buying a Marner jersey this year that's all I can say
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Can't move JT (no move clause, right)? Not gonna move Matthews. Nylander is probably the best contract. So that leaves one if they want to go that route.

I think you have to solicit offers and if it makes sense you do it. Replace $11 mil with 2 $5.5 mil players, balance out the offense, replace the aging/slow/non contributors and see what happens.
 
The problem is that psychologically this has crept into the team.  I think you may have to go big at this point.  What did the Red Wings do back in the day?  Is that even possible in a cap system?
 
Bender said:
Chris said:
L K said:
The 180 I have taken on this team is pretty hairpin.    I thought this core was awesome.  I want it broken up.  The effort is just absolutely garbage in a Game 7. 

Injuries, sure.  This team isn?t good.  They can?t win important games.  I genuinely dislike this team.  But hey at least we can have one of the most expensive cores without a playoff series win
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That's the problem. All the money spent on 4 forwards and no supporting case that is any kind of threat. So if you shut down the top line you beat the Leafs.

Something needs to change. Keefe maybe. Marner maybe. Rielly? Maybe. Regular season heros, playoff zeros.
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And the crazy thing is you literally can start tracing this back from when they didn't offload JVR and Bozak in favour of long term thinking. Now they're so top heavy they can't add depth. One of the top 2 centres goes and the house of cards collapses.
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I said that all along. Why lose those players for nothing? Recoup whatever You can. Picks, young players, something that one day can step in. Ridiculous.
 
AlmosGirl said:
Derk said:
For me, this is the most humiliating playoff loss I have experienced as a Leafs fan. Boston was brutal and yes, disappointing. But losing this series when up 3-1 against a team that was so far behind in the standings, and the Habs to boot (the team I have always disliked the most), well, that takes the cake for me. I feel completely frustrated and dejected at the same time.

I don't know what else to say.
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Derek my sentiments exactly.
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Thanks. Nice to see you again after I have been away from the forums for so long. :)
 
The other issue is goaltending.  I have no idea in the world what to do about that.  They are very good and putting guys in there who are pretty decent but end up outplayed by literally every other goalie they face.
 
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