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David Clarkson

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Potvin29 said:
Couple points about Clarkson in Friedman's latest 30 Thoughts:

8. The other situation is David Clarkson?s. He needs a change of scenery in the worst way, a chance to start over. He?s a better player than this, but it started badly with a 10-game suspension and never improved.

No Maple Leaf?s ice-time is dropping under Horachek more than his, including 8:11 last week in San Jose, his lowest non-injury game in five years. Would Toronto propose Clarkson/Richards? Makes sense for them, but I don?t see the Kings as a willing partner in that.

9. The most sensible thing would be a buyout, but that is borderline impossible for him.

As Toronto battled with Edmonton and Ottawa to sign Clarkson, his agency (Newport) had leverage and used it. He has five years and $27.5 million (cash) remaining, and, under regular rules, that would mean the Maple Leafs pay out approximately $1.85M per season for 10 years to let him go.

Problem: $20.5M of his deal is in bonuses, and those cannot be shrunk under the buyout formula. So, he?d cost between $4M-$5M a year the next five years. Doesn?t make sense to do it.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-youth-movement-for-2016-world-cup/
Dear lord that buyout is insane.  I mean, I knew it was, but to read it again is just crazy.  Nonis is nuts.
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And should be fired.

I am opposed to buying him out.  That would be even crazier than signing him.  Park him on the 4th line and let him play 2 mins a game.  Maybe he'll retire.
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Like...he knew he could have said no right?  If Clarkson's agent asked him to hand over his first born son I feel like Nonis would have agreed to it.
 
Potvin29 said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Potvin29 said:
Couple points about Clarkson in Friedman's latest 30 Thoughts:

8. The other situation is David Clarkson?s. He needs a change of scenery in the worst way, a chance to start over. He?s a better player than this, but it started badly with a 10-game suspension and never improved.

No Maple Leaf?s ice-time is dropping under Horachek more than his, including 8:11 last week in San Jose, his lowest non-injury game in five years. Would Toronto propose Clarkson/Richards? Makes sense for them, but I don?t see the Kings as a willing partner in that.

9. The most sensible thing would be a buyout, but that is borderline impossible for him.

As Toronto battled with Edmonton and Ottawa to sign Clarkson, his agency (Newport) had leverage and used it. He has five years and $27.5 million (cash) remaining, and, under regular rules, that would mean the Maple Leafs pay out approximately $1.85M per season for 10 years to let him go.

Problem: $20.5M of his deal is in bonuses, and those cannot be shrunk under the buyout formula. So, he?d cost between $4M-$5M a year the next five years. Doesn?t make sense to do it.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-youth-movement-for-2016-world-cup/
Dear lord that buyout is insane.  I mean, I knew it was, but to read it again is just crazy.  Nonis is nuts.
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And should be fired.

I am opposed to buying him out.  That would be even crazier than signing him.  Park him on the 4th line and let him play 2 mins a game.  Maybe he'll retire.
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Like...he knew he could have said no right?  If Clarkson's agent asked him to hand over his first born son I feel like Nonis would have agreed to it.
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It's just spectacularly bad decisionmaking.  It's Jason Blake all over again, and Nonis should have realized that.  Especially with the term he gave out ... my God.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's just spectacularly bad decisionmaking.  It's Jason Blake all over again, and Nonis should have realized that.  Especially with the term he gave out ... my God.
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It's so much worse. Blake at least contributed close to what he was getting paid for the first couple seasons of his contract.
 
Corn Flake said:
Take Mason Raymond of the 2nd PP unit and put Clarkson on in his place.  He will be back to producing points.  Boom. Done.  I'll let myself out.
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Ah sweet optimistic corn flake..: I've missed you around here.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's just spectacularly bad decisionmaking.  It's Jason Blake all over again, and Nonis should have realized that.  Especially with the term he gave out ... my God.
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It's so much worse. Blake at least contributed close to what he was getting paid for the first couple seasons of his contract.
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Yeah, he even led the team in scoring one year.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's just spectacularly bad decisionmaking.  It's Jason Blake all over again, and Nonis should have realized that.  Especially with the term he gave out ... my God.
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It's so much worse. Blake at least contributed close to what he was getting paid for the first couple seasons of his contract.
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Not in the slightest.  Here are Blake's numbers as per hockeydb.com:
2006-07 New York Islanders NHL 82 40 29 69 34 1 5 1 2 3 2
2007-08 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 82 15 37 52 28 -4 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 78 25 38 63 40 -2 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 56 10 16 26 26 -4

We wanted a 40 goal man and never got it.
 
Rebel_1812 said:
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's just spectacularly bad decisionmaking.  It's Jason Blake all over again, and Nonis should have realized that.  Especially with the term he gave out ... my God.
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It's so much worse. Blake at least contributed close to what he was getting paid for the first couple seasons of his contract.
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Not in the slightest.  Here are Blake's numbers as per hockeydb.com:
2006-07 New York Islanders NHL 82 40 29 69 34 1 5 1 2 3 2
2007-08 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 82 15 37 52 28 -4 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 78 25 38 63 40 -2 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 56 10 16 26 26 -4

We wanted a 40 goal man and never got it.
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$4 million per season is 40 goal territory?
 
mc said:
Some juicy bits of a feud between Clarkson and Elias when they were teammates

http://hockeythisweek.com/devils-this-week-elias-and-clarkson-the-burning-questions/

?Clarkson wasn?t worth the money. Sure he could put the puck in the net but that was about it. I do not understand the Leafs. They are crazy. Just to pay a guy 35 million + for seven years is incredible?.
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Pretty much sums up how I felt about the signing at the time.
The Leafs had money to burn that 2013 off-season but the free agent crop was TERRIBLE (Weiss, Horton, Lecavalier were the other "top" forwards).  Instead of showing some restraint, the Leafs instead threw crazy money at Clarkson, rather than wait until the free agent crop was better the following year.
 
Potvin29 said:
Rebel_1812 said:
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
It's just spectacularly bad decisionmaking.  It's Jason Blake all over again, and Nonis should have realized that.  Especially with the term he gave out ... my God.
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It's so much worse. Blake at least contributed close to what he was getting paid for the first couple seasons of his contract.
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Not in the slightest.  Here are Blake's numbers as per hockeydb.com:
2006-07 New York Islanders NHL 82 40 29 69 34 1 5 1 2 3 2
2007-08 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 82 15 37 52 28 -4 -- -- -- -- --
2008-09 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 78 25 38 63 40 -2 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 56 10 16 26 26 -4

We wanted a 40 goal man and never got it.
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$4 million per season is 40 goal territory?
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It might take Clarkson 3 years to match Blake's point total in year one of his deal.

I don't think that it is exaggerating to call this the single worst contract in the history of the NHL, barring an improvement in his play.

Some might bring up Yashin, but his wasn't buyout proof and 3 of the years were in uncapped years and Yashin did put up some decent numbers with the Islanders (.80 PPG over 350ish games). It is hilarious that it is still on the books now (final year), but so would Clarkson for 10 years if we bought him out this off season.
 
For those who like piling on: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass

Wherein we discover Clarkson has 1 assist this season where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.

EDIT: Make that 1 assist in his Leafs career where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.
 
Potvin29 said:
Wherein we discover Clarkson has 1 assist this season where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.
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1 assist (of his 10) during his Leafs career, not just this season.
 
Potvin29 said:
For those who like piling on: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass

Wherein we discover Clarkson has 1 assist this season where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.
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Is it possible Clarkson is even worse than we already thought?
 
Potvin29 said:
For those who like piling on: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass
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That was such a depressing read that I feel like I need a hug. Wow.
 
Stickytape said:
That was such a depressing read that I feel like I need a hug. Wow.
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It's amazing that he's on pace for 17 goals despite still being pretty bad this season. If he can hit that 20-goal mark that GMs love I think we could move him as long as we ate a couple million.
 
I'm embarassed at the fact I thought Clarkson would have been a Roberts-lite for this team.  Not necessarily from an offensive point of view, but his ability to continually work hard and make his presence felt.  A heart and soul type of guy. 

Bless him for trying as best as he could, but I was way off the mark.
 
bustaheims said:
Potvin29 said:
For those who like piling on: http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2015/1/22/7867635/david-clarkson-is-a-balrog-he-cannot-pass

Wherein we discover Clarkson has 1 assist this season where he actually made a direct pass to someone and they scored.
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Is it possible Clarkson is even worse than we already thought?
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Yes.

I loved these bits (wow):

In this, 2014-15, his so-called "rebound" year, Clarkson is averaging 0.08 assists per game [this is 5v5 time plus PP minutes.] That?s 533rd amongst all NHLers.

To recap, David Clarkson's 2014-15 Assists to date consist of:

One (1) missed pass.
One (1) puck bouncing off him.
One (1) missed deflection.
One (1) time he knocked a puck off the boards in his own end.

 
Same for me Peter D, I actually like watching Clarkson with the Devils, he was always in the mix.
A grit and sandpaper guy who could pot some goals.
Comes here and is a dud
We have to go back to his signing and remember he was offered more to play elsewhere. So he came home for less money.
To bad as i really wanted him to be that same kind of player.
Time to put him on the 4th line and let him stay there. Heck he may just retire.
 
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