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Dupuis placed on waivers

Potvin29 said:
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is an ?berdebate.  Dupuis may not have been the biggest problem with the PK, but he was signed to improve the PK and it hasn't improved.  Therefore he failed to do his job.  When that happens, you get terminated or demoted, not, say, extended for another year to the tune of millions.  ::)

Exactly.  Nobody is saying Dupuis was the problem on the PK, only that he didn't provide much of a solution to it.  If he's not a bona-fide premier penalty killer, what's he doing on the team?

Being pretty responsible defensively at even strength as well?

Ugh.

I agree, we need more Dupuis'!

We'd never allow a goal had we had a team filled with Dupuis', Sjostrom's, and Wallin's.
 
Potvin29 said:
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is an ?berdebate.  Dupuis may not have been the biggest problem with the PK, but he was signed to improve the PK and it hasn't improved.  Therefore he failed to do his job.  When that happens, you get terminated or demoted, not, say, extended for another year to the tune of millions.  ::)

Exactly.  Nobody is saying Dupuis was the problem on the PK, only that he didn't provide much of a solution to it.  If he's not a bona-fide premier penalty killer, what's he doing on the team?

Being pretty responsible defensively at even strength as well?

He provides very little.  You can find guys who are "pretty responsible defensively" and can even get a point or 2.  The Dupuis's of the hockey world are a dime a dozen.
 
Erndog said:
Potvin29 said:
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is an ?berdebate.  Dupuis may not have been the biggest problem with the PK, but he was signed to improve the PK and it hasn't improved.  Therefore he failed to do his job.  When that happens, you get terminated or demoted, not, say, extended for another year to the tune of millions.  ::)

Exactly.  Nobody is saying Dupuis was the problem on the PK, only that he didn't provide much of a solution to it.  If he's not a bona-fide premier penalty killer, what's he doing on the team?

Being pretty responsible defensively at even strength as well?

Ugh.

I agree, we need more Dupuis'!

We'd never allow a goal had we had a team filled with Dupuis', Sjostrom's, and Wallin's.

Good argument, and didn't take it extremely out of context either.

Although, I'd like to counter with the following if I may: Ugh.
 
Bender said:
But my question is this: Why does anyone even care?

Because waiving a completely useless and superfluous player like either Rosehill or Orr would have made more sense than waiving one of the only Leafs who wasn't completely awful at killing penalties?
 
Busta Reims said:
Bender said:
But my question is this: Why does anyone even care?

Because waiving a completely useless and superfluous player like either Rosehill or Orr would have made more sense than waiving one of the only Leafs who wasn't completely awful at killing penalties?

Yeah, keeping both of them over Dupuis makes little sense to me.
 
Busta Reims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is an ?berdebate.  Dupuis may not have been the biggest problem with the PK, but he was signed to improve the PK and it hasn't improved.  Therefore he failed to do his job.  When that happens, you get terminated or demoted, not, say, extended for another year to the tune of millions.  ::)

He wasn't signed to improve the PK, though - that's just too much responsibility to place on a single player that's not a goalie. He was signed because he's decent at PKing, and the number show that he did a pretty good job of that. It's really not his fault the rest of the PK group are terrible.

Huh?  That's exactly why he was signed.  I already said it's not entirely his fault that the PK hasn't improved, but if the only reason you are on the roster is to be a PK specialist, and the PK is awful, then you are liable to be cut.

Now, do I think that someone else should have been let go first?  Yes, in the line-up thread I said Orr should be cut.  In fact, I would have gotten rid of Rosehill before Dupuis.  Nonetheless, it shouldn't be a big surprise that they waived Dupuis, he'd be 3rd on my list anyhow.
 
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is an ?berdebate.  Dupuis may not have been the biggest problem with the PK, but he was signed to improve the PK and it hasn't improved.  Therefore he failed to do his job.  When that happens, you get terminated or demoted, not, say, extended for another year to the tune of millions.  ::)

Exactly.  Nobody is saying Dupuis was the problem on the PK, only that he didn't provide much of a solution to it.  If he's not a bona-fide premier penalty killer, what's he doing on the team?

Surely you understand that not ever player in the league is a bona-fide premier talent at a particular element of hockey.
 
Bullfrog said:
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
This is an ?berdebate.  Dupuis may not have been the biggest problem with the PK, but he was signed to improve the PK and it hasn't improved.  Therefore he failed to do his job.  When that happens, you get terminated or demoted, not, say, extended for another year to the tune of millions.  ::)

Exactly.  Nobody is saying Dupuis was the problem on the PK, only that he didn't provide much of a solution to it.  If he's not a bona-fide premier penalty killer, what's he doing on the team?

Surely you understand that not ever player in the league is a bona-fide premier talent at a particular element of hockey.

Of course, but I could care less about Dupuis, in my opinion he brings nothing to the team.  For the record, I also see no use for Orr and Rosehill.
 
Of course, but I could care less about Dupuis, in my opinion he brings nothing to the team.  For the record, I also see no use for Orr and Rosehill.

I agree regarding Orr and Dupuis.  However, I think that Rosehill can still be a useful 4th liner.  He finishes all his checks and can keep up with the pace of the game.  His skating stride does not make him look like he belongs on a peewee house league team like his teammate Orr.
 
gunnar36 said:
Of course, but I could care less about Dupuis, in my opinion he brings nothing to the team.  For the record, I also see no use for Orr and Rosehill.

I agree regarding Orr and Dupuis.  However, I think that Rosehill can still be a useful 4th liner.  He finishes all his checks and can keep up with the pace of the game.  His skating stride does not make him look like he belongs on a peewee house league team like his teammate Orr.

Rosehill can skate, that's about it, again there are tons of guys in the AHL that could do the same things he does.
 
Busta Reims said:
Because waiving a completely useless and superfluous player like either Rosehill or Orr would have made more sense than waiving one of the only Leafs who wasn't completely awful at killing penalties?

Well, one of them is now waived as well. Does Rosehill have to clear too? Methinks he's the next one out the door as the injuries clear up.
 
If the coach started seeing his players being treated as the opposition's jailhouse girlfriend, I'm sure he'd want to send a 4th liner rather then a more purposeful player out to answer the bell.
 
Yeah!!!! I never did like him. Boyce, has only played 3 or 4 games and already has a goal. He has blocked shots and does not stop his aggressive play.
 
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