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Dylan Strome traded to Chicago

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https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/status/1066904915367346177
This is an... interesting... trade for Arizona.

Strome was of course the 3rd overall pick in 2015 (1 ahead of Marner). He scored just 9 points in 21 NHL games last season and has only 6 in 20 games this season.
 
I go to at least a dozen Coyotes games per year and I can honestly say I have never noticed Strome on the ice, he just doesn't get it done at the NHL level. That might change in Chicago where he could have some better linemates??
 
I get that Strome wasn't lighting up the NHL but he was over a PPG in the AHL as a 20 year old. To give up on him now is insane.

It's not a perfect comparison but Strome has 16 points in his first 48 NHL games. Ryan Johansen had 33 points in his first 107 NHL games.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I get that Strome wasn't lighting up the NHL but he was over a PPG in the AHL as a 20 year old. To give up on him now is insane.

It's not a perfect comparison but Strome has 16 points in his first 48 NHL games. Ryan Johansen had 33 points in his first 107 NHL games.
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Ryan Strome had great numbers in the A as well.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/MarkLazerus/status/1066904915367346177
This is an... interesting... trade for Arizona.

Strome was of course the 3rd overall pick in 2015 (1 ahead of Marner). He scored just 9 points in 21 NHL games last season and has only 6 in 20 games this season.
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I had to check, but I was pretty sure we haven't traded Marner from that same draft.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bender said:
Ryan Strome had great numbers in the A as well.
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And you suppose that an inability to translate AHL scoring to the NHL might be genetic?
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I'm skeptical he'll make it as what people hoped he'd be. You used Ryan Johansen as a comparable, why not Ryan Strome?

 
Bender said:
I'm skeptical he'll make it as what people hoped he'd be. You used Ryan Johansen as a comparable, why not Ryan Strome?
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My thinking re: Johansen was that they're pretty similar player types and builds. The idea of the taller, bigger body guys taking a little while longer to develop. That, to me, seemed to be the common thread when both guys were drafted. They have the tools, can they get the tools to coalesce sort of thing.

Ryan Strome, on the other hand, while not a small guy was definitely seen as more of the slick offensive passing type where the question was would he ever really find another facet to his game. Short of being Dylan's brother I don't really see the connection.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I get that Strome wasn't lighting up the NHL but he was over a PPG in the AHL as a 20 year old. To give up on him now is insane.

It's not a perfect comparison but Strome has 16 points in his first 48 NHL games. Ryan Johansen had 33 points in his first 107 NHL games.
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It's not just about points, he just doesn't compete and I wouldn't bet my money that he will ever put it together. Really hard to be a front line center in the NHL when you Can't keep up with pace and refuse to compete while being weak. This could be the push he needs to change though??  If you didn't know his draft position he would not be in the NHL.
 
A lack of competitive whatever is another thing that often gets said about bigger guys when they're putting it together and even beyond then. I think we can all remember stuff like that being said about Antropov(and even Sundin never really ditched it), for instance.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I get that Strome wasn't lighting up the NHL but he was over a PPG in the AHL as a 20 year old. To give up on him now is insane.

It's not a perfect comparison but Strome has 16 points in his first 48 NHL games. Ryan Johansen had 33 points in his first 107 NHL games.
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Sure, but, even with the Johansen comparable, they're giving up a potential ~60 point C (which is what Johansen has been most of his career) and a middle 6 winger (Perlini) for a guy who already is a ~50 pt C.

I probably don't make the deal, but I don't think it's as bad as it's getting made out to be.
 
Nik the Trik said:
A lack of competitive whatever is another thing that often gets said about bigger guys when they're putting it together and even beyond then. I think we can all remember stuff like that being said about Antropov(and even Sundin never really ditched it), for instance.
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I'm going to assume you have never  watched Strome play if you think either of those compared are in the same compete level. Strome woukdn't skate through a wet paper bag. If he wasn't drafted 3rd overall no one is giving him an NHL roster spot. 
 
bustaheims said:
Sure, but, even with the Johansen comparable, they're giving up a potential ~60 point C (which is what Johansen has been most of his career) and a middle 6 winger (Perlini) for a guy who already is a ~50 pt C.
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Well, Schmaltz hit 50 points playing with Kane on his wing and getting a buttload of PP time. I don't know I'd write it in pen that he's a 50 point centre exactly.

You're probably right that the trade isn't a complete trainwreck or anything with who Strome might be still being up in the air but it seems to me like the Coyotes are the club that could most benefit by hoping the Strome pick turns out. I don't see Schmaltz as really moving the needle one way or the other.
 
bustaheims said:
Nik the Trik said:
I get that Strome wasn't lighting up the NHL but he was over a PPG in the AHL as a 20 year old. To give up on him now is insane.

It's not a perfect comparison but Strome has 16 points in his first 48 NHL games. Ryan Johansen had 33 points in his first 107 NHL games.
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Sure, but, even with the Johansen comparable, they're giving up a potential ~60 point C (which is what Johansen has been most of his career) and a middle 6 winger (Perlini) for a guy who already is a ~50 pt C.

I probably don't make the deal, but I don't think it's as bad as it's getting made out to be.
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Also Schmaltz is only a year older. I guess they felt they needed more of a sure bet than a question mark, whether right or wrong.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Bates said:
Strome woukdn't skate through a wet paper bag.
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What was it 5they said about Antropov? He looked like a baby deer?
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I have watched both a lot,  Antropov is closer to a Broad Street Bully than he is to Strome. I hope this is the shock Strome needs to get wake him but I wouldn't bet money on it.
 
If Chicago's not just trying to rebuild the Erie Otters (get your hands off of Dermott), and get tired of Strome, I'd be interested in swapping them Gauthier for him for their inevitable tank run.
 
herman said:
If Chicago's not just trying to rebuild the Erie Otters (get your hands off of Dermott), and get tired of Strome, I'd be interested in swapping them Gauthier for him for their inevitable tank run.
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