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Dylan Strome traded to Chicago

herman said:
If Chicago's not just trying to rebuild the Erie Otters (get your hands off of Dermott), and get tired of Strome, I'd be interested in swapping them Gauthier for him for their inevitable tank run.
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Sure. Especially if you wanted to try him on the wing.
 
Nik the Trik said:
You're probably right that the trade isn't a complete trainwreck or anything with who Strome might be still being up in the air but it seems to me like the Coyotes are the club that could most benefit by hoping the Strome pick turns out. I don't see Schmaltz as really moving the needle one way or the other.
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Maybe. I jsut feel there's maybe more of a sense of immediacy in Arizona right now, and they see more benefit in someone who can step in contribute right now instead of waiting on someone who might be able to contribute a little more in a season or two. I think, ultimately, we'll look back at this deal as a saw-off.
 
bustaheims said:
Maybe. I jsut feel there's maybe more of a sense of immediacy in Arizona right now, and they see more benefit in someone who can step in contribute right now instead of waiting on someone who might be able to contribute a little more in a season or two. I think, ultimately, we'll look back at this deal as a saw-off.
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That all might be true but in a way that's also my point. I think their off-ice problems are driving bad long term decisions the way they always have. I don't think their squeaking into the playoffs really changes things for them financially either(or, at least, it hasn't in the past). If the Coyotes have a realistic chance in Arizona it's going to have to be with them building a legit contender.
 
Nik the Trik said:
That all might be true but in a way that's also my point. I think their off-ice problems are driving bad long term decisions the way they always have. I don't think their squeaking into the playoffs really changes things for them financially either(or, at least, it hasn't in the past). If the Coyotes have a realistic chance in Arizona it's going to have to be with them building a legit contender.
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I don't know if I'd consider it just being amount their off-ice problems. It would boost the morale in the lockerroom if they were able to win more frequently, and get into the playoffs. I think part of it is about getting their players to believe they're on the right track.
 
https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1067064879864061954

I wonder how emotional this trade was.
 
bustaheims said:
I don't know if I'd consider it just being amount their off-ice problems. It would boost the morale in the lockerroom if they were able to win more frequently, and get into the playoffs. I think part of it is about getting their players to believe they're on the right track.
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Which would be one thing if Schmaltz presented a meaningful sea change in their short term prospects. Absent that, I still don't see this making much sense for Phoenix regardless of the outcome.

 
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
I don't know if I'd consider it just being amount their off-ice problems. It would boost the morale in the lockerroom if they were able to win more frequently, and get into the playoffs. I think part of it is about getting their players to believe they're on the right track.
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Which would be one thing if Schmaltz presented a meaningful sea change in their short term prospects. Absent that, I still don't see this making much sense for Phoenix regardless of the outcome.
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Arizona's main benefit is clearing a contract slot (they were maxed). Not sure why they'd do that by shipping out two former first rounders rather than seeing if someone like Ottawa would bite on Dave Bolland's contract + a few other little short cap hits for the hassle of taking back Bobby Ryan + picks.
 
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
I don't know if I'd consider it just being amount their off-ice problems. It would boost the morale in the lockerroom if they were able to win more frequently, and get into the playoffs. I think part of it is about getting their players to believe they're on the right track.
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Which would be one thing if Schmaltz presented a meaningful sea change in their short term prospects. Absent that, I still don't see this making much sense for Phoenix regardless of the outcome.
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Arizona's main benefit is clearing a contract slot (they were maxed). Not sure why they'd do that by shipping out two former first rounders rather than seeing if someone like Ottawa would bite on Dave Bolland's contract + a few other little short cap hits for the hassle of taking back Bobby Ryan + picks.
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Perhaps Arizona wants Nathan Horton from the Leafs?
 
Zee said:
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
bustaheims said:
I don't know if I'd consider it just being amount their off-ice problems. It would boost the morale in the lockerroom if they were able to win more frequently, and get into the playoffs. I think part of it is about getting their players to believe they're on the right track.
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Which would be one thing if Schmaltz presented a meaningful sea change in their short term prospects. Absent that, I still don't see this making much sense for Phoenix regardless of the outcome.
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Arizona's main benefit is clearing a contract slot (they were maxed). Not sure why they'd do that by shipping out two former first rounders rather than seeing if someone like Ottawa would bite on Dave Bolland's contract + a few other little short cap hits for the hassle of taking back Bobby Ryan + picks.
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Perhaps Arizona wants Nathan Horton from the Leafs?
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If it wasn't real money I think you would be onto something.
 
herman said:
Arizona's main benefit is clearing a contract slot (they were maxed). Not sure why they'd do that by shipping out two former first rounders rather than seeing if someone like Ottawa would bite on Dave Bolland's contract + a few other little short cap hits for the hassle of taking back Bobby Ryan + picks.
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If that was really Arizona's "main benefit" then their GM should probably be fired instantly.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
herman said:
Arizona's main benefit is clearing a contract slot (they were maxed). Not sure why they'd do that by shipping out two former first rounders rather than seeing if someone like Ottawa would bite on Dave Bolland's contract + a few other little short cap hits for the hassle of taking back Bobby Ryan + picks.
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If that was really Arizona's "main benefit" then their GM should probably be fired instantly.
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I'd rephrase to main apparent benefit at this time in what appears to be an otherwise risky semi-lateral move. Obviously, Chayka believes in Schmaltz' performance in some way.

I still think they should do a Bolland/Ryan move to try to win a change-of-scenery trade and maybe score on some Ottawa picks. Bolland's contract is insured so Ottawa would likely be willing to pay a hefty on-ice premium to get out from Ryan's deal.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1067064879864061954

I wonder how emotional this trade was.
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I don't understand what you're talking about.  People score net-circling backhanders 1 on 5 like literally all the time.
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1067064879864061954

I wonder how emotional this trade was.
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John Chayka doesn't strike me as a guy who'd make a reactionary/emotional trade.
 
John Chayka admitted that the Coyotes' recent play and the playoff spots available in a middling Pacific Division were factors in this trade. There were other factors, but that was part of it.
 
When discussing trading Strome and Perlini, Coyotes GM John Chayka said there is a difference between patience and hope. The latter is not a way to build your organization.
 
Bates said:
Those were Tweets by Craig Morgan, no idea why the who thing didn't load?
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You have to copy and paste the tweet url, not the text. So:

https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1067087145691602944
https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1067088191675486209
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Bates said:
Those were Tweets by Craig Morgan, no idea why the who thing didn't load?
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You have to copy and paste the tweet url, not the text. So:

https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1067087145691602944
https://twitter.com/craigsmorgan/status/1067088191675486209
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Thanks
 
Teams don't give up on kids that young unless the return is great. For the Yotes to trade both Strome and Perlini tells me they see nothing in these guys. They may be proven wrong but suffice to say Strome has been a bust so far.
 
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