Game 70: TOR vs. FLA. Hard to believe...

[bustaheims]

to me a goalie coach can definitely be held accountable especially if he has tried to change a goaltender that has been playing goal for upwards of 20 years

Reimer's been playing the style Allaire teaches since before either became part of the Leafs organization.

 

[itsgametime]

to me a goalie coach can definitely be held accountable especially if he has tried to change a goaltender that has been playing goal for upwards of 20 years

Reimer's been playing the style Allaire teaches since before either became part of the Leafs organization.

then why have Allaire?

 

[Mikhail Bloodnovsky]

If I'm Burke I am worried. I got Reimer signed for 2 more years and he looks absolutely done.

 

[bustaheims]

then why have Allaire?

To work with all the goalies in the organization. To help the goalies maintain the technical side of their game. For dozens of other reasons. He really hasn't done much to change Reimer's game - everything people want to place on him is much more of a result of Reimer having little to no confidence and the fact that he missed two months with a scrambled brain.

 

[TML fan]

That whole "never blame the goalie" mantra really sunk in with some, didnt it?

Only as much as the "always blame the goalie and the goaltending coach" has sunk in with others.

I don't really think that's the case. I think it's more that others not doing their job doesn't excuse the goalie from doing his. You can only cut so much slack, and that runs out pretty fast when the routine saves aren't even being made.

This is all in general, of course.

 

[BermudaBudsFan]

If I'm Burke I am worried. I got Reimer signed for 2 more years and he looks absolutely done.

If he got any sort of decent offer at the deadline, as he claims, he should have made the deal.

 

[Derk]

Sieve goal to end it.

 

[bustaheims]

I don't really think that's the case. I think it's more that others not doing their job doesn't excuse the goalie from doing his. You can only cut so much slack, and that runs out pretty fast when the routine saves aren't even being made.

This is all in general, of course.

Well, I certainly don't see anyone saying the goaltending has been good, just that they're not always the main culprit when a puck goes into the net, despite what some want to believe.

 

[Coderaspberry]

Lol, Bowen with the extended metaphor out of despair.  Entertaining.

 

[itsgametime]

then why have Allaire?

To work with all the goalies in the organization. To help the goalies maintain the technical side of their game. For dozens of other reasons. He really hasn't done much to change Reimer's game - everything people want to place on him is much more of a result of Reimer having little to no confidence and the fact that he missed two months with a scrambled brain.

Allaire MUST take some of the blame.  He teaches the drop the knees to the ice and stay big style and hope like hell the puck hits you.  It has not worked and HE is the goalie coach.  Confidence?  this is also part of Allaires responsibilty to work on the mental game.  It has not worked I think that is clear.

 

[Zee]

Reimer does suck right now. Goes down way too early, plays so deep in the crease. I know there are defensive mistakes in front of him, but you have to get your goalie to actually make a save now and again on a giveaway, you know like a lot of good goalies actually do? 

 

[Guilt Trip]

Reimer ruined by Allaire

Agreed.....

 

[TML fan]

I don't really think that's the case. I think it's more that others not doing their job doesn't excuse the goalie from doing his. You can only cut so much slack, and that runs out pretty fast when the routine saves aren't even being made.

This is all in general, of course.

Well, I certainly don't see anyone saying the goaltending has been good, just that they're not always the main culprit when a puck goes into the net, despite what some want to believe.

I don't think anyone is blaming the goalie for every single goal either.

 

[KW Sluggo]

Thank God Brian Burke elected to keep this group together rather than trading any of them away for any of the four first rounders offered.

 

[Dillieo123]

to me a goalie coach can definitely be held accountable especially if he has tried to change a goaltender that has been playing goal for upwards of 20 years

seems like hes always going down and trying to play big with shoulders up...almost looks like a lacrosse goalie.  dont really remember him doing that last year as much, maybe iam wrong but is gus doing that too?  that i think comes from the goalie coach and it doesnt look like they are comfortable with it.

 

[BermudaBudsFan]

I don't really think that's the case. I think it's more that others not doing their job doesn't excuse the goalie from doing his. You can only cut so much slack, and that runs out pretty fast when the routine saves aren't even being made.

This is all in general, of course.

Well, I certainly don't see anyone saying the goaltending has been good, just that they're not always the main culprit when a puck goes into the net, despite what some want to believe.

The obituary for this season begins with goaltending that went from passable to atrocious.  They have always sucked in their own end, but when getting saves that should be made by professional goaltenders, they were OK.  Once the crap goals began to go in, it was an unstoppable avalanche.

Let me ask this -- are they a playoff team with a top 10 goalie?  Probably.  They sure as hell wouldn't have 6 points out of the last possible 36, or whatever it is.

 

[itsgametime]

Gus can get away with playing any style because he is so damn fast with his legs he makes up for so many errors.  That's why sometimes he gets in trouble by overplaying some shots.

 

[Zee]

I don't really think that's the case. I think it's more that others not doing their job doesn't excuse the goalie from doing his. You can only cut so much slack, and that runs out pretty fast when the routine saves aren't even being made.

This is all in general, of course.

Well, I certainly don't see anyone saying the goaltending has been good, just that they're not always the main culprit when a puck goes into the net, despite what some want to believe.

The obituary for this season begins with goaltending that went from passable to atrocious.  They have always sucked in their own end, but when getting saves that should be made by professional goaltenders, they were OK.  Once the crap goals began to go in, it was an unstoppable avalanche.

Let me ask this -- are they a playoff team with a top 10 goalie?  Probably.  They sure as hell wouldn't have 6 points out of the last possible 36, or whatever it is.

That's the thing, if Reimer and Gus were making crazy saves and keeping them in but then a rebound goes in then ok it's the entire team fault, but the issue is as soon as a mistake is made and a quality shot is allowed on net, more often than not its a goal. The Leafs are getting no "big saves" from their goalies (even less so from Reimer, Gustavsson has actually been fairly steady lately)

 

[barney_rebel]

We _____ dudes....

 

[Andy007]

There goes Luke "Slow with no offensive skill" Schenn with a nice play to set up that one.

If only "made of glass, AHL fodder" Connolly, "knucklehead captain" Phanuef and "kooled off" Kulemin scored tonight; that would have sure put those fickle fans in their place for pointing out legitmate flaws in highly paid player's games..