:-( is it true?? Reimer wants a trade....

[Bonsixx]

I think Bernier is better, so I don't really care. I never saw Reimer as the "demand a trade" type before, though. Oh well.

 

[Kin]

To some extent, shouldn't the response from the Leafs be to not particularly care? It's absolutely understandable that Reimer would want to be traded. He'd rather be a #1 goalie than a #2 and Bernier has established himself as the guy. I'm sure some people would rather that hockey players would like to be all "aw shucks, I'll do whatever the team asks me to do" but it's pretty hard to balance that sort of attitude with the burning desire to compete we also ask players to have. Nobody should be happy being a back-up.

So provided that you don't think Reimer will be a nuisance in the dressing room...what difference does this make? Maybe it makes him harder to sign but considering the control the Leafs have, Reimer might be willing to take a more reasonable one year deal as it would make him more attractive to a team in need of goaltending mid-season.

Which isn't to say you keep him. If someone out there wants to trade for him and offers a worthwhile package, look into it, but if Reimer wants to choose where he plays then free agency is only a year away.

 

[A finnish leaf fan]

Not surprising after Carlyle threw him under the bus by blaming him for the losing streak. Granted, Reimer was far from stellar during that stretch but neither were many other players and I don't even want to mention Randy's "coaching strategies" here. Will be interesting to see where Reimer ends up, there aren't that many teams in dire need of a goalie and there are better options available as UFAs. Vancouver is probably at the top of the list, they could use a starter/1B goalie and due to their current situation aren't very likely to entice the top UFAs (other than Miller who is reportedly seeking to play on a West Coast team). Other possibilities include Winnipeg and maybe Pittsburgh who aren't that happy with their current goaltending and could be looking for potential starters at a lower price tag. A trade with either of those would probably mean either Pavelec or Fleury going the other way though and I'm not so sure that would interest Nonis seeing as Bernier seems to be his go-to-guy.

 

[Kin]

Not surprising after Carlyle threw him under the bus by blaming him for the losing streak.

Yeah, that just didn't happen.

 

[Courtnall]

Not surprising after Carlyle threw him under the bus by blaming him for the losing streak.

Yeah, that just didn't happen.

Well it sure wasn't praise he was giving him. Randy s**t the bed when he said his goaltender was "just ok". Although is was true, there was no need to say that in the media.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

Not surprising after Carlyle threw him under the bus by blaming him for the losing streak.

Yeah, that just didn't happen.

Well it sure wasn't praise he was giving him. Randy s**t the bed when he said his goaltender was "just ok". Although is was true, there was no need to say that in the media.

Why is the presumption that Carlyle has to lie? He was just ok. Reimer can take responsibility for his play.

I kind of agree with Nik here also. The team could just take him to arbitration and sign the deal, whether they move him or not. Players get their freedom when they turn 27, he's an RFA and I don't think any team should be strong armed by their restricted players. It's not like Reims is a superstar here and teams are knocking down the door to trade for him.

He may have decreased his value on the market, but Nonis shouldn't cave just because he wants out. Play like a #1 and I bet teams will start calling.

 

[2badknees]

Not surprising after Carlyle threw him under the bus by blaming him for the losing streak.

Yeah, that just didn't happen.

Well it sure wasn't praise he was giving him. Randy s**t the bed when he said his goaltender was "just ok". Although is was true, there was no need to say that in the media.

Ron Wilson insulted each player's mother before breakfast, and even he didn't get even close to the mileage Randy got after his "just ok" comment.

 

[Peter D.]

So what are we hoping for in terms of a return from Reimer?  My guess is a 2nd rounder is probably the best we can hope for right now. 

 

[Deebo]

So what are we hoping for in terms of a return from Reimer?  My guess is a 2nd rounder is probably the best we can hope for right now. 

I think even a 2nd rounder is wishful thinking.

 

[slapshot]

Not surprising after Carlyle threw him under the bus by blaming him for the losing streak.

Yeah, that just didn't happen.

Well it sure wasn't praise he was giving him. Randy s**t the bed when he said his goaltender was "just ok". Although is was true, there was no need to say that in the media.

I don't think there is any harm in saying what Randy said in the media. You'd think he'd gone all Torts on Reimer. If Reimer gets his nose all out of joint for being told he played just OK, that's pretty sad. He was just ok, nothing more. Carlyle was just being honest. These poor little weak ego players making millions need to toughen up. Reimer has had ample opportunity over the past few seasons to solidify himself as number 1, even after Bernier came. Fact is, Bernier won the job by playing better. If Reimer wants "fresh start" fine. Hope he gets to go to Winnipeg where he wants as long as the Leafs get something reasonable in return.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

@DarrenDreger: While the Gorges watch continues, Toronto doesn't have a strong offer for Reimer. Could change. If not, he's been told be ready for camp.

 

[Frank E]

@DarrenDreger: While the Gorges watch continues, Toronto doesn't have a strong offer for Reimer. Could change. If not, he's been told be ready for camp.

Sure, but he'll need a contract for that.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

@DarrenDreger: While the Gorges watch continues, Toronto doesn't have a strong offer for Reimer. Could change. If not, he's been told be ready for camp.

Sure, but he'll need a contract for that.

I'm sure they won't forget his qualifier today. I'm not sure what the arbitration status is on him, but I took that to mean that just because Reims asked for a trade, doesn't mean he'll get one.

 

[hap_leaf]

Nobody should be happy being a back-up.

Brodeur puts in nicely.  Prefering the #1 but eventually a backup role can be something you can be happy with.

?If I get a job as a No. 1, I think I?m able to handle the workload of 50 to 60 games. If I don?t, and I get a backup job on a team I feel has a chance to win the Stanley Cup, anything between 20 to 30 games I?d be comfortable with in the right situation,? Brodeur said Thursday. ?I want to play the game. I understand my age, for people, is a big deal, but I stayed healthy all year. I played 39 games. Didn?t miss a practice. Didn?t miss a game. I was pretty happy about that.?

 

[L K]

Nobody should be happy being a back-up.

Brodeur puts in nicely.  Prefering the #1 but eventually a backup role can be something you can be happy with.

?If I get a job as a No. 1, I think I?m able to handle the workload of 50 to 60 games. If I don?t, and I get a backup job on a team I feel has a chance to win the Stanley Cup, anything between 20 to 30 games I?d be comfortable with in the right situation,? Brodeur said Thursday. ?I want to play the game. I understand my age, for people, is a big deal, but I stayed healthy all year. I played 39 games. Didn?t miss a practice. Didn?t miss a game. I was pretty happy about that.?

Spoken as a goaltender who has been below average for the last 4 seasons.  So it's great that Brodeur can speak that way.  He also acted like a jerk last year in New Jersey when he wasn't treated like the #1 behind a far superior goaltender in Schneider.

 

[Kin]

Well it sure wasn't praise he was giving him.

So is that the standard we have now for coaches? That unless they're offering effusive praise they shouldn't comment on a player? Why even say anything to the media at all then?

If a player didn't play very well and Carlyle was asked about it and said "He played great!" people would accuse him of coddling that player or being stupid or a spreader of Blue and White disease or some other nonsense. He says something that, at most, is the slightest of criticisms and he's throwing someone under the bus. There's just no way to win that game.

 

[Highlander]

What a matter with Macintyre as Back up? Reimer just needed to stop 3 goals two years ago to cement his place on this team, he couldnt stem the tide and was history from that point on.

 

[Rebel_1812]

I get him wanting out, and suspect he will, like the last several players to depart, do well elsewhere.

Mike Kostka, Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, Joe Colborne...it's like the team is just shedding all-stars.

And I suppose you think Reimer is nearer the level of Mark Fraser, Matt Frattin, and Joe Colburne than Mikhail Grabovski, Clarke MacArthur, and J.M. Liles? 

I should've said: 'like the last several good players to depart.' Apologies. Yeah, mediocrities will be mediocre anywhere. But good players who have off years here seem to get dumped and end up doing pretty well elsewhere.

I think it's debatable whether or not Liles and Grabovski did well elsewhere. I mean, 13 goals doesn't scream "Look at what you're missing!"

Well, he was at a 50-point pace between a 2nd/3rd line in an injury-hampered season. The Caps sites say his linemates were more productive and more defensively sound when he played with them. Both Liles and Grabovski had impressive goal shares with their new teams. So, I'd say while they weren't First All-Star Team seasons, they had good seasons. 

Well the fact he does get injured does matter.  That is the big reason we traded Carlo; he was always injured. 

 

[moon111]

What a matter with Macintyre as Back up? Reimer just needed to stop 3 goals two years ago to cement his place on this team, he couldnt stem the tide and was history from that point on.

Would you rather have Brodeur in that game?

 

[Joe S.]

What a matter with Macintyre as Back up? Reimer just needed to stop 3 goals two years ago to cement his place on this team, he couldnt stem the tide and was history from that point on.

you could say the exact same thing about potvin in 93.

no offense but this is a ridiculous comment.