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Jays Roster Discussion

L K said:
If there is anyone I would be pointing a finger at it might be the hitting coach.  The Jays have been pitched outside all year.  They aren't adjusting.  That's either a fault of the hitting coach to not find a strategy against it, or a guy who can't command enough presence to get the players to follow through on adjustments.

Yeah. Though, I do blame Gibby for not having the team start playing small ball more early in the season when it was already clear that they weren't going to power their way to wins in the same way as last season.
 
bustaheims said:
L K said:
If there is anyone I would be pointing a finger at it might be the hitting coach.  The Jays have been pitched outside all year.  They aren't adjusting.  That's either a fault of the hitting coach to not find a strategy against it, or a guy who can't command enough presence to get the players to follow through on adjustments.

Yeah. Though, I do blame Gibby for not having the team start playing small ball more early in the season when it was already clear that they weren't going to power their way to wins in the same way as last season.

I was surprised to see they did not learn anything at all from the way they got rolled by Kansas in the ALCS.
 
The best the Jays can hope for is a Wild Card spot -- currently +1G over the Orioles there  by way of a 10-2 whitewash of the Seattle Mariners last night.  Jays' starter J.A. Happ earned his 20th win of the year, becoming the sixth player in franchise history to achieve the milestone.

Forget winning the A.L. East as the Red Sox have amassed a +4G lead over the Jays.  Unless Boston suffers a total (col)lapse, it won't be getting any easier for the Jays to overtake them than it already is (which isn't).
 
Don't think the recent swoon is Gibbons' fault but that last inning shows why I don't really like him as a manager. Top of 10th, runner on second and nobody out and plays like that one run is the only thing in the world. Pinch runner, sac bunt.....line out and strike out.

 
Nik the Trik said:
Don't think the recent swoon is Gibbons' fault but that last inning shows why I don't really like him as a manager. Top of 10th, runner on second and nobody out and plays like that one run is the only thing in the world. Pinch runner, sac bunt.....line out and strike out.

Honestly, I took greater issue with his bullpen management.  He had Barnes in the game, pulled him for the lefty matchups...while Barnes is pretty much unhittable against lefties.  Loup comes in, walks both batters he faces and they eek out of the inning.
 
L K said:
Nik the Trik said:
Don't think the recent swoon is Gibbons' fault but that last inning shows why I don't really like him as a manager. Top of 10th, runner on second and nobody out and plays like that one run is the only thing in the world. Pinch runner, sac bunt.....line out and strike out.

Honestly, I took greater issue with his bullpen management.  He had Barnes in the game, pulled him for the lefty matchups...while Barnes is pretty much unhittable against lefties.  Loup comes in, walks both batters he faces and they eek out of the inning.
Donaldson of all people didn't make two plays in the 12th... bad throw then missed catch... which cost them the winning run against.

Yeah, first and second no out... Joey Batz up... bunt?
 
L K said:
Nik the Trik said:
Don't think the recent swoon is Gibbons' fault but that last inning shows why I don't really like him as a manager. Top of 10th, runner on second and nobody out and plays like that one run is the only thing in the world. Pinch runner, sac bunt.....line out and strike out.

Honestly, I took greater issue with his bullpen management.  He had Barnes in the game, pulled him for the lefty matchups...while Barnes is pretty much unhittable against lefties.  Loup comes in, walks both batters he faces and they eek out of the inning.

To that point this from 538:

Baseball's savviest and crappiest Bullpen managers

Spoiler alert: Gibbons is not one of the savviest.
 
Final homestand for the Jays starts tonight as they open up a four-game series against the NYYankees.

With just ten games remaining on the season, this upcoming series may very well determine the Jays' post-season hopes.  Looks like our boys need a boost...

GO JAYS GO!!
 
hockeyfan1 said:
Final homestand for the Jays starts tonight as they open up a four-game series against the NYYankees.

With just ten games remaining on the season, this upcoming series may very well determine the Jays' post-season hopes.  Looks like our boys need a boost...

GO JAYS GO!!
Great run of baseball by the Jays right now. Hoping their peaking at the right time. It's unfortunate the Red Sox have won 11 straight. Looks like Baltimore or Detroit in the wildcard game.

Ask me how their season went after the wildcard game, not before.
 
Sad weekend for baseball though. Vin Scully's last game in Dodger Stadium(which was great) and the untimely passing of Jose Fernandez.
 
Jays, Yankees engage in brawl, as Blue Jays lose 7-5.  Yankees avoid getting swept in the four-game series.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-yankees-benches-clear-batters-get-hit/

The Jays still hold the 1 game Wildcard lead over the Orioles, who will start a three game series with the Jays that begins tonight.
 
For Blue Jays President Mark Shapiro, the death of Miami Marlins pitching ace Jose Fernandez hits close to home...

For Shapiro the news brought back a wave of personal memories from spring training of 1993, when he was a member of the Cleveland Indians front office. In March of that year Indians relievers Steve Olin and Tim Crews were killed in a spring training boating accident that seriously injured left-hander Bob Ojeda. After those losses, baseball games seemed insignificant in comparison.

?Baseball?s one of those games that?s unforgiving in the sense that it keeps moving, it keeps going,? Shapiro said. ?There?s a comfort to that, but there?s also a cruelty to that."

?We all deal with that whether it?s kids being born, family members lost, it keeps moving. It?s a hard thing to get past for a team and an organization. Not being (in Miami) it?s hard to begin to think about. The only reason I can begin to think about it is because I went through something as terrible and as horrific.?

?When you live in close quarters with people for 183 days and spring training, in a lot of ways baseball becomes your family,? Shapiro said. ?You lean on people more than you think. There are stronger leaders than you ever know and there?s greater comfort being with each other than with anyone else. It?s a reminder that the clubhouse is your home and the team is your family.?

?You tend to forget, particularly people watching from a distance, you tend to forget that these guys doing super-human things for three hours a day are just human beings, just people,? Shapiro said. ?Everybody probably goes home and pays a little more attention with their loved ones."



http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/devastating-loss-marlins-jose-fernandez-felt-rogers-centre/
 
The Bullpen's imploding is going to get most of the attention but I just can't stand the smallball nonsense. Let Donaldson hit with someone on base maybe.
 
Nik the Trik said:
The Bullpen's imploding is going to get most of the attention but I just can't stand the smallball nonsense. Let Donaldson hit with someone on base maybe.

6 hits total, 0 runs after the 2nd inning. The bullpen hasn't been great but this offense (or lack thereof) is really killing them. Wasted yet another great SP effort.
 

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