Kapanen traded

[herman]

All these medium term front-loaded contracts that Dubas/Pridham doled out have spiked in trade value because of the flat-cap + internal Covid caps.

Johnsson, if he doesn't get moved this offseason, is almost assuredly going to be traded the season after where his 3.4 M AAV cap hit exceeds his actual annual salary of 2.5M per year. The Leafs could eke out more juice if they paid out the 1.75M signing bonus first.

Kerfoot is in almost the exact same boat, but younger and more versatile and I'm more inclined to keep him of the two remaining outer-core players.

 

[Guilt Trip]

It feels pointless to speculate about this since more moves are certainly coming, but this also opens up a forward slot in the expansion draft of course. So now we've got:

F: Matthews, Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Kerfoot, Johnsson, ________ (Hyman? Envgall?)
D: Rielly, Muzzin, ________ (Holl? Dermott? Offseason acquisition?)
G: Andersen/Campbell/whoever

Hyman and Anderson will be UFA's. Do you need to protect them? One, if not both Dermott or Holl will be exposed if still here.

 

[Kin]

I like that Dubas likes to make win-win trades for both parties.

I think that all GMs, by default, are restricted to making trades both teams feel are in their best interest.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Hyman and Anderson will be UFA's. Do you need to protect them? One, if not both Dermott or Holl will be exposed if still here.

Not if they're UFAs no, I just included them on the off-chance they get re-signed.

 

[Guilt Trip]

All these medium term front-loaded contracts that Dubas/Pridham doled out have spiked in trade value because of the flat-cap + internal Covid caps.

Johnsson, if he doesn't get moved this offseason, is almost assuredly going to be traded the season after where his 3.4 M AAV cap hit exceeds his actual annual salary of 2.5M per year. The Leafs could eke out more juice if they paid out the 1.75M signing bonus first.

Kerfoot is in almost the exact same boat, but younger and more versatile and I'm more inclined to keep him of the two remaining outer-core players.

Depends on the coming year and how each progress. Both have base salaries of $750K in 21/22, 22/23. Very tradeable contracts.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Hyman and Anderson will be UFA's. Do you need to protect them? One, if not both Dermott or Holl will be exposed if still here.

Not if they're UFAs no, I just included them on the off-chance they get re-signed.

Well that's 2 less they have to worry about. I can't see these guys getting signed before the expansion draft then. Wouldn't make sense as it allows you to protect 2 other players if they're still in the plans.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Well that's 2 less they have to worry about. I can't see these guys getting signed before the expansion draft then. Wouldn't make sense as it allows you to protect 2 other players if they're still in the plans.

For sure, was just giving the potential options. Like you said right now it looks like the best potential exposed players on the Leafs will be on defence. Rielly and Muzzin are obvious locks. Even if Dubas doesn't bring in another defence, which seems very unlikely, one of Dermott and Holl will be up for grabs.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Well that's 2 less they have to worry about. I can't see these guys getting signed before the expansion draft then. Wouldn't make sense as it allows you to protect 2 other players if they're still in the plans.

For sure, was just giving the potential options. Like you said right now it looks like the best potential exposed players on the Leafs will be on defence. Rielly and Muzzin are obvious locks. Even if Dubas doesn't bring in another defence, which seems very unlikely, one of Dermott and Holl will be up for grabs.

Wasn't questioning why you put up Freddie and Hyman. I honestly didn't know if you had to protect them(UFA's) or not.

 

[L K]

3.2 should cover all of Mikheyev and Dermott.

Before this move I said both those guys should get an AAV that starts with a 1. I don't think this changes that.

I think they do as well but I could see something like 1.6-1.7 as the number and that still puts them at around 3.2-3.4M combined.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think they do as well but I could see something like 1.6-1.7 as the number and that still puts them at around 3.2-3.4M combined.

That would leave the team with about $2mil in cap space to find another defenceman. So yeah more moves are coming.

 

[Bullfrog]

I think they do as well but I could see something like 1.6-1.7 as the number and that still puts them at around 3.2-3.4M combined.

That would leave the team with about $2mil in cap space to find another defenceman. So yeah more moves are coming.

Ya, Pietrangelo will probably want more than that.

 

[ZBBM]

I didn't hear that but if the right D man were to be made available, I'm sure they'd use the pick if needed.

Obviously if it's the only option to getting that elusive top-4 defenceman Dubas should probably do it, but man I'd love to be able to keep the pick considering our prospect system right now. Hallander and whoever we select would arguably be our top-2 prospects if you assume Sandin and Robertson are "graduated"

For all the hype on Robertson I don't necessarily think he's ready to play in the NHL. 

 

[L K]

I think they do as well but I could see something like 1.6-1.7 as the number and that still puts them at around 3.2-3.4M combined.

That would leave the team with about $2mil in cap space to find another defenceman. So yeah more moves are coming.

It's really unfair to hold an injury plagued season against Johnsson but his 3.4M cap hit is probably the next one I would look to get out of.  If the cap wasn't flattened its less of an issue but I don't think you can have multiple 3-4M players in your bottom 6.  I don't want to guarantee Mikheyev 20 goals in an injury free season but I think he slots in fine on the 2nd line for a lot less than Johnsson.  I think he's a good player but if we are trying to free up money for an improved defense that's probably the place to look.

Kerfoot as a center I think is too valuable to give up and 3.5 isn't unreasonable.  He did manage to get 3 points in the play-in series and really did look a lot better than his play during the regular season.

The other one to look at I guess would be Andersen.  Not so much as a guaranteed cost-cutting but he gas 1 more year on his contract.  He's a good goalie.  That soft goal in the 3rd period though is something that has happened more than a few times and I don't want the Leafs to go through the offseason without considering a change in net. 

 

[Frank E]

If Dubas wants to get serious about the defence, he's going to have to trade a bigger piece than Johnsson. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If Dubas wants to get serious about the defence, he's going to have to trade a bigger piece than Johnsson. 

Trading Johnsson gets them to about $5mil-ish. Replacing Dermott, who at this point would be stuck on the 3rd pairing, with Liljegren or Lehtonen would increase that a little too. That should be enough to get talking to anyone not named Pietrangelo.

 

[rdowdall]

If Dubas wants to get serious about the defence, he's going to have to trade a bigger piece than Johnsson.

The Athletic has reported that the Leafs have discussed Andersen, Johnsson, Kerfoot and Engvall in potential trades.

 

[Kin]

There really isn't a piece bigger than Johnsson to trade that doesn't just create an equally big hole somewhere else on the team.

 

[Frank E]

If Dubas wants to get serious about the defence, he's going to have to trade a bigger piece than Johnsson. 

Trading Johnsson gets them to about $5mil-ish. Replacing Dermott, who at this point would be stuck on the 3rd pairing, with Liljegren or Lehtonen would increase that a little too. That should be enough to get talking to anyone not named Pietrangelo.

You still thinking Brodie?

When does free agency happen this weird year?

 

[rdowdall]

There really isn't a piece bigger than Johnsson to trade that doesn't just create an equally big hole somewhere else on the team.

If the Athletic is to be believed, maybe they are trying to reshape that entire third line.  Not sure what they would do for the center, but maybe they want to move Kerfoot and Johnsson and go in a different direction with that line.  Moving Andersen seems risky if the goal is to compete for the cup.  If they did move those 4 players, they would have another 13 million to spend, but they would only have 12 players under contract.

I think they could move Kerfoot and Johnsson and still move forward, depending on what they were targeting to get back.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

You still thinking Brodie?

When does free agency happen this weird year?

I think he's still the ideal pick in terms of cost of acquisition yeah.

Free agency will likely be October 9th.