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Leafs bring back Komarov (4 years, $2.95mil cap hit)

Mike1 said:
I think this signing is pretty bad. Komarov doesn't have the offensive ability to be worth the salary the Leafs paid him. It's like a mini-Clarkson move. An overpayment for someone with limited ability just because he's "tough to play against".

You are the first on this site who has the "balls to compare this with the  Clarkson signing".  Brave brave man
 
freer said:
Mike1 said:
I think this signing is pretty bad. Komarov doesn't have the offensive ability to be worth the salary the Leafs paid him. It's like a mini-Clarkson move. An overpayment for someone with limited ability just because he's "tough to play against".

You are the first on this site who has the "balls to compare this with the  Clarkson signing".  Brave brave man

I said a mini-version of the Clarkson signing. Which it is. It's the same flawed logic by management.
 
When you compare the two after 10 games, you'll see why there is no comparison to the Clarkson deal. Leo will outperform Clarkson by miles.
 
lamajama said:
When you compare the two after 10 games, you'll see why there is no comparison to the Clarkson deal. Leo will outperform Clarkson by miles.

I guess we will have to see. I am under the impression this will be a turn around year for Clarkson. IMO.
 
freer said:
lamajama said:
When you compare the two after 10 games, you'll see why there is no comparison to the Clarkson deal. Leo will outperform Clarkson by miles.

I guess we will have to see. I am under the impression this will be a turn around year for Clarkson. IMO.

Leafs fans can only hope.  It can't get much worse for Clarkson, is the only way up?
 
Mike1 said:
freer said:
Mike1 said:
I think this signing is pretty bad. Komarov doesn't have the offensive ability to be worth the salary the Leafs paid him. It's like a mini-Clarkson move. An overpayment for someone with limited ability just because he's "tough to play against".

You are the first on this site who has the "balls to compare this with the  Clarkson signing".  Brave brave man

I said a mini-version of the Clarkson signing. Which it is. It's the same flawed logic by management.

I get what you're saying but, really, it's not.  Komorov is a Leafs draft pick, so presumably they've been monitoring his development.  He's attended training camps and played exhibition games.  He played a season with them, which, by most accounts, was a pretty good year.  And he's played at and succeeded at the international level.

All of this to say that I think the Leafs know Komorov a lot better than they would have known Clarkson at the time of his signing, which to me makes it a different type of deal.
 
Mike1 said:
I think this signing is pretty bad. Komarov doesn't have the offensive ability to be worth the salary the Leafs paid him. It's like a mini-Clarkson move. An overpayment for someone with limited ability just because he's "tough to play against".

Except that isn't really the "logic" used in either case. Clarkson got his money because the hope was he would contribute offensively. Komarov got his as a defensive forward. 3 million is more or less the free agent rate for an in demand penalty killer.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Mike1 said:
I think this signing is pretty bad. Komarov doesn't have the offensive ability to be worth the salary the Leafs paid him. It's like a mini-Clarkson move. An overpayment for someone with limited ability just because he's "tough to play against".

Except that isn't really the "logic" used in either case. Clarkson got his money because the hope was he would contribute offensively. Komarov got his as a defensive forward. 3 million is more or less the free agent rate for an in demand penalty killer.

And if he pots 5 -10 goal, it is a bonus
 
A Weekend at Bernier's said:
I get what you're saying but, really, it's not.  Komorov is a Leafs draft pick, so presumably they've been monitoring his development.  He's attended training camps and played exhibition games.  He played a season with them, which, by most accounts, was a pretty good year.  And he's played at and succeeded at the international level.

All of this to say that I think the Leafs know Komorov a lot better than they would have known Clarkson at the time of his signing, which to me makes it a different type of deal.

Komarov is 27 years old & very far from a prospect. This isn't some young kid who has upside. Komarov is a pro, who is what he is at this point.

Nik the Trik said:
Except that isn't really the "logic" used in either case. Clarkson got his money because the hope was he would contribute offensively. Komarov got his as a defensive forward. 3 million is more or less the free agent rate for an in demand penalty killer.

Really? I'm sure you can find a guy to kill penalties & play defense for a lot less than 2.9 million dollars over 4 years.

freer said:
And if he pots 5 -10 goal, it is a bonus

This is the flawed logic I'm talking about. This isn't a guy making under a million dollars playing on the 4th line. Leafs management has talked about playing him higher than that & they've committed money & term to Komarov. You say if he produces anything basically, it's a bonus. Why pay him the money then? Especially when you already have another similar guy in Clarkson locked down forever.

A Komarov-Whomever-Clarkson third line isn't giving you points on most nights. For a team that had secondary scoring issues last year, that isn't good.
 
Mike1 said:
Really? I'm sure you can find a guy to kill penalties & play defense for a lot less than 2.9 million dollars over 4 years.

I'm sure you could find someone, sure. Just like you could find someone for the first line for less than the Leafs are paying Kessel. If, however, you're paying free agent prices and you're going after someone good enough for other teams to want then 3 million is more or less the going rate and 4 years isn't an unreasonable term for a 27 year old.
 
Mike1 said:
Really? I'm sure you can find a guy to kill penalties & play defense for a lot less than 2.9 million dollars over 4 years.

This right here shows that you're not aware of all the things that Komarov brings to the team.
 
nutman said:
You should change your MO to "Downer Mike1".

When the Leafs do something good that makes the team better, I'll give them a complement for doing so. Komarov doesn't fit the bill at all.
 
Of all the things to get upset about, this is a big problem? Really? The guy has heart which the team is lacking. The guy hits everything which the leafs need. The guy plays a solid defensive game and put up decent offensive numbers last year. Komorov will not be detrimental to the team at all. And the price tag is bang on. You have to be realistic, when the cap goes up, almost all new signings go up.
 
Mike1 said:
nutman said:
You should change your MO to "Downer Mike1".

When the Leafs do something good that makes the team better, I'll give them a complement for doing so. Komarov doesn't fit the bill at all.

What are you basing this opinion on? When you say "Komarov is a pro, who is what he is at this point" well, no, he isn't. When he left he had his first taste of NHL experience under his belt, played a part on a decent PK squad not to mention a taste of the playoffs in Toronto for the first time in ages... and he was 26. He went on to have successful runs in the KHL and internationally over the course of the following year. 

Also, reportedly, he was excellent 'in the dressing room' at both the AHL and NHL level.
 

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