Leafs @ Canucks - Dec 2, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

[azzurri63]

I thought Polak was serviceable last year as a bottom pairing guy.  This year? Total crap.

He was a slow defenseman last year.  He wrecked his leg.  He's immobile now.  That he has played in 9 of the 20 games since he has signed is a joke.

I have no idea why we resigned him although he's not the only issue on this team. One thing I don't get is you telling me Lamoriello couldn't or can't make a trade to improve the D?

Trading to improve the D while hurting the team elsewhere, easy.

Trading to improve the D while maintaining the current team, hard.

Why would it necessarily hurt the team. You telling me they couldn't have traded a prospect or a draft pick to pick up someone better than Polak. He'll I would bring Dermott up before I resigned Polak.

Well looking at it from a what's best for Dermott point of view, having him bounce in and out of the lineup probably isn't the best for him, whereas platooning Carrick, Polak and Borgman probably isn't going to hurt anyone in the rotation.

Also, Carrick is a better option than Polak.  For whatever reason they are going to play Polak.  Trading assets to get another player to watch Polak play seems like a waste of assets.

Missed what I said they should have never signed him. Could of made a trade without sacrificing much to obtain someone better than Polak.

I'm not so sure you could have.  If you are going to trade an asset for something that is going to spend 1 or 2 games out of every 3 in the press box, I think that is a waste of an asset.  I think as a depth signing, or a situational player, Polak is not horrible.  But as an everyday player, the Leafs have better options, such as Carrick.  It's just that they don't use him.

Holy dude are you listening? You make a trade to pick up someone who at worst is a top 6 at worst. He doesn't play every 3rd game.

 

[L K]

Polak's constant pinching is heart attack inducing.

 

[ZBBM]

That didn't produce anything but Matthews there was kind of amazing.

 

[bustaheims]

Polak's constant pinching is heart attack inducing.

Polar below the goal line in the offensive zone is nightmare fuel.

 

[ZBBM]

Leafs very good period, but no cigar.

 

[TML fan]

This game would be a lot more interesting if Andersen could have made that save...

 

[rdowdall]

I thought Polak was serviceable last year as a bottom pairing guy.  This year? Total crap.

He was a slow defenseman last year.  He wrecked his leg.  He's immobile now.  That he has played in 9 of the 20 games since he has signed is a joke.

I have no idea why we resigned him although he's not the only issue on this team. One thing I don't get is you telling me Lamoriello couldn't or can't make a trade to improve the D?

Trading to improve the D while hurting the team elsewhere, easy.

Trading to improve the D while maintaining the current team, hard.

Why would it necessarily hurt the team. You telling me they couldn't have traded a prospect or a draft pick to pick up someone better than Polak. He'll I would bring Dermott up before I resigned Polak.

Well looking at it from a what's best for Dermott point of view, having him bounce in and out of the lineup probably isn't the best for him, whereas platooning Carrick, Polak and Borgman probably isn't going to hurt anyone in the rotation.

Also, Carrick is a better option than Polak.  For whatever reason they are going to play Polak.  Trading assets to get another player to watch Polak play seems like a waste of assets.

Missed what I said they should have never signed him. Could of made a trade without sacrificing much to obtain someone better than Polak.

I'm not so sure you could have.  If you are going to trade an asset for something that is going to spend 1 or 2 games out of every 3 in the press box, I think that is a waste of an asset.  I think as a depth signing, or a situational player, Polak is not horrible.  But as an everyday player, the Leafs have better options, such as Carrick.  It's just that they don't use him.

Holy dude are you listening? You make a trade to pick up someone who at worst is a top 6 at worst. He doesn't play every 3rd game.

So you sit Carrick in the press box, don't sign Polak, and trade a prospect or a pick for someone who is better than either of those options?

I am listening.  That is what you are saying.  And I am saying, for the prospect or pick that you are giving up is probably worth more to the Leafs than the difference between someone you pick up versus Carrick or Polak in the lineup.  You'll have to forgive me for having a difference of opinion on the worth of assets in the Leafs organization.  I also don't think the difference between the Leafs bottom pairing and the other 30 teams bottom pairings is all that great.  For example the third pairing on St. Louis is Vince Dunn and Robert Prosser based on games played and time on ice.  On the LA Kings it's Oscar Fantenberg and Kurtis McDermid.  I would rather have a trio of Polak, Carrick and Borgman and keep the asset than move and asset and acquire the likes of those.

 

[ZBBM]

Well, I was hoping for a sweep of the CGY/EDM/VAN annual swing, which would have been the first in since I don't know when, but it's looking rather bleakish.

 

[rdowdall]

Well, I was hoping for a sweep of the CGY/EDM/VAN annual swing, which would have been the first in since I don't know when, but it's looking rather bleakish.

2000.

 

[L K]

Yet another play where all three Leafs forwards were down low and Polak creeps down below the hashmarks on the pinch despite not actually adding anything to the play.  His pinches make absolutely no sense.

 

[herman]

My internet died for about an hour but it doesn?t look like I missed much. Marner with Kadri now?

 

[ZBBM]

Well, I was hoping for a sweep of the CGY/EDM/VAN annual swing, which would have been the first in since I don't know when, but it's looking rather bleakish.

2000.

Wow, that was last century.

Anyway, I think they have played better these last 2 periods than they did all game against EDM.

 

[herman]

I?ve been asking for Kadri-Marner since last year. I like it.

 

[Bender]

Man Markstrom is stopping everything. We're actually playing pretty well!

 

[herman]

Man Markstrom is stopping everything. We're actually playing pretty well!

We are crushing them possession-wise even accounting for score effects.

 

[barney_rebel]

We stink dudes


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[Strangelove]

Polak singlehandedly killing the leafs momentum

 

[Bender]

Finally!!

 

[barney_rebel]

We rule man


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[ZBBM]

HA no shutout you bastards


Rielly has been incredible.