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Leafs @ Canucks - Nov. 2nd, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

CarltonTheBear said:
drummond said:
Potvin29 said:
bustaheims said:
It's nights like this that make is abundantly clear that, with the way they're playing, if the Leafs weren't getting some of the best goaltending in the NHL, they'd be down there with Philly, Edmonton and Buffalo fighting for the best shot at the 1st overall pick.

Which is why I thought the hate for Wilson/love for Carlyle was misguided by the hands each were dealt in net.  The Leafs played overall better games under Wilson with a worse lineup than I've seen so far from Carlyle.

I agree

I'm glad more and more people are coming around on this.

Under Wilson the Leafs would be high scoring machine
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I would imagine that information was passed onto him from a trainer or someone on the medical staff.

Even still . . . teams don't really share that kind of information with each other. Outside of the fact that it was a cut on the leg that required surgery, I don't think the Leafs have much way of knowing how similar the two injuries really are.

That's fair. If he's having surgery though he's almost definitely going to miss some games.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
That's fair. If he's having surgery though he's almost definitely going to miss some games.

Yeah. He'll probably be placed on LTIR. He's probably gone at least 3 weeks.
 
I'm guessing Carlyle just moves JVR to centre. There's no cap room to acquire somebody else without moving Liles first.

Raymond-Kadri-Kessel
Lupul-JVR-Clarkson
Bodie-McClement-Kulemin
McLaren-Smith-Orr

Obviously there's some potential swaps there in Raymond/Lupul and Clarkson/Kulemin. But that doesn't look awful. JVR's going to have to step up to the challenge though. Hopefully Bozak will be able to return by the time his 10 games are up.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I would imagine that information was passed onto him from a trainer or someone on the medical staff.

Even still . . . teams don't really share that kind of information with each other. Outside of the fact that it was a cut on the leg that required surgery, I don't think the Leafs have much way of knowing how similar the two injuries really are.

Come on man they're both pretty obviously achilles lacerations, that's basically the only thing back there.  This nhl.com article even pegs Karlsson's at 70% according to their GM.  http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=655594  Let's hope Bolland's is 'similar' only because it is a cut to the achilles, and not because it is as bad as that...
 
pnjunction said:
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
I would imagine that information was passed onto him from a trainer or someone on the medical staff.

Even still . . . teams don't really share that kind of information with each other. Outside of the fact that it was a cut on the leg that required surgery, I don't think the Leafs have much way of knowing how similar the two injuries really are.

Come on man they're both pretty obviously achilles lacerations, that's basically the only thing back there.  This nhl.com article even pegs Karlsson's at 70% according to their GM.  http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=655594  Let's hope Bolland's is 'similar' only because it is a cut to the achilles, and not because it is as bad as that...

Yeah when Karlsson was injured they came out and said it was a cut Achilles there was no big secret there. Hopefully Bolland's isn't as severe. What a depressing night.

Who gets a call up? Spencor Abott? Greg McKegg?  Sigh.
 
pnjunction said:
Come on man they're both pretty obviously achilles lacerations, that's basically the only thing back there.  This nhl.com article even pegs Karlsson's at 70% according to their GM.  http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=655594  Let's hope Bolland's is 'similar' only because it is a cut to the achilles, and not because it is as bad as that...

Considering most reports/speculation right now is that Bolland's injury is not to his Achilles tendon, I'm not sure how you can say it obviously was. There's a lot of other stuff higher up on the ankle and along the side of the leg.
 
bustaheims said:
pnjunction said:
Come on man they're both pretty obviously achilles lacerations, that's basically the only thing back there.  This nhl.com article even pegs Karlsson's at 70% according to their GM.  http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=655594  Let's hope Bolland's is 'similar' only because it is a cut to the achilles, and not because it is as bad as that...

Considering most reports/speculation right now is that Bolland's injury is not to his Achilles tendon, I'm not sure how you can say it obviously was. There's a lot of other stuff higher up on the ankle and along the side of the leg.

OK but isn't what we are talking about that Carlyle says it is like Karlsson's injury which was very public knowledge?  To me that puts an end to speculation unless you want to suggest he's misinformed or lying.
 
pnjunction said:
OK but isn't what we are talking about that Carlyle says it is like Karlsson's injury which was very public knowledge?  To me that puts an end to speculation unless you want to suggest he's misinformed or lying.

My guess is he misinformed, or, at least, was making a poor comparison. They were similar in that they were both cut on the leg on similar plays, and, my guess, that's what led Carlyle to make the comparison rather than the specifics of the injury itself.

Also, for what it's worth, the speculation isn't coming from nobodies or guys with questionable credibility. It's coming from well connected guys like Bob McKenzie.
 
Insight of the game:  When Glenn Healy gushed that the Canucks had 11 straight passes without a Leaf touching the puck, on a 5-on-3. Really?  That many passes in a row with only 2 more skaters than the other team?  Really remarkable, Glenn, truly mind-blowing analysis of such previously unseen puck possession by a team with 66% more skaters on the ice.

Keep up the good work.
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Insight of the game:  When Glenn Healy gushed that the Canucks had 11 straight passes without a Leaf touching the puck, on a 5-on-3. Really?  That many passes in a row with only 2 more skaters than the other team?  Really remarkable, Glenn, truly mind-blowing analysis of such previously unseen puck possession by a team with 66% more skaters on the ice.

Keep up the good work.

I've usually got pretty thick skin when it comes to the guys praising the other team. But tonight was about the worst I've ever heard.  A Sedin couldn't fall over without some effusive comment from Healy or Hughson.
 
Bender said:
Kassian is a disgusting player

I know a few guys who went to school with Kassian actually, and i can confirm that he's a guy who wouldn't be able to function in normal day society if he didn't have hockey going for him.

The guy, other than being able to play, was considered a borderline retard.
 
I effing really hope that Bolland's not out for too long!

Oh ya and the Canucks... to this day one of my favourite hockey experiences was watching the Bruins snatch the Cup from their grasp. I hope they get close again and get pummeled into hamburger meat.
 
For the record, this was Vancouver's eleventh straight win over a Leafs team. 

Add to that there were 133 total shots that the Leafs allowed on their Western swing, even though the team won 2 out of those 3 games.

As for the Bolland injury...

It would be hard for me to imagine how that was on purpose," Nonis said. "I don?t care what player is hitting him or anything like that. I guess it?s possible, but I don?t believe it."

"I talked to him and he?s a little bummed out," teammate Nazem Kadri said after a 4-0 loss to the Vancouver Canucks. "Obviously, that sucks."

On the game itself and the total shots allowed on this road trip...

"Terrible game for us, probably the worst game that we?ve played this year," he said. "I?m very frustrated with our group right now and the way we?ve played."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/bolland-injury-leaves-gaping-hole-in-leafs-lineup
 

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