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Leafs @ Penguins - Nov 16th - 7:00 pm - CBC

Nik Bethune said:
I know people are going to be naturally focused on the stars but honestly I'm pretty underwhelmed by the supporting cast. The decision that Johnsson and Kapanen are so valuable that keeping them both warrants the team being in cap hell for the year and with no real backup goaltending is really not holding up well.

I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.

I'm not blaming them, I'm attributing it to the decision to keep both of them.
 
L K said:
herman said:
4th line shows the team what's necessary to shake out of this slump

Cycle the puck and don?t score?  They haven?t scored a goal in the last 10+ games

Apparently, if you score zero goals it?s a success on this team. 
 
Nik Bethune said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.

I'm not blaming them, I'm attributing it to the decision to keep both of them.

I've got my problems with Dubas but Lou left him a tough row of corn to weed.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik Bethune said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.

I'm not blaming them, I'm attributing it to the decision to keep both of them.

I've got my problems with Dubas but Lou left him a tough row of corn to weed.

He certainly hasn?t been able to get guys on good cost controlled contracts.  It?s not going to be easy retooling this team
 
L K said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik Bethune said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.

I'm not blaming them, I'm attributing it to the decision to keep both of them.

I've got my problems with Dubas but Lou left him a tough row of corn to weed.

He certainly hasn?t been able to get guys on good cost controlled contracts.  It?s not going to be easy retooling this team

You've got that right.  They need to overhaul the D from top to bottom.
 
The problem is obvious.  There is no vision for the way this team plays on the ice.  Dubas has set his path.  Babcock actively undermines it.  Babcock should have been fired two off seasons ago.  Last year and a quarter have been a waste.  You have a coach and GM that see the game in an opposite manner.  What?s the point of continuing down this fruitless path?
 
That we are 20+ games into the season and still don?t have a game where the team has given 60 minutes of good sustained effort is not a good sign.  Every game they come out either completely flat or trailing.  Something is going wrong with their preparation. 

Tavares has the broken finger but the whole lead by example thing hasn?t really shown up on the ice very much.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik Bethune said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.

I'm not blaming them, I'm attributing it to the decision to keep both of them.

I've got my problems with Dubas but Lou left him a tough row of corn to weed.

Sure but they needed to make a better call there. Neither guy is good enough to bet the season on.
 
lc9 said:
The problem is obvious.  There is no vision for the way this team plays on the ice.  Dubas has set his path.  Babcock actively undermines it.  Babcock should have been fired two off seasons ago.  Last year and a quarter have been a waste.  You have a coach and GM that see the game in an opposite manner.  What?s the point of continuing down this fruitless path?

Dubas is responsible for the team assembled...soft as butter.  Nothing Babcock can do about that.
 
Nik Bethune said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nik Bethune said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I don't think they're the reason they are in cap hell.

I'm not blaming them, I'm attributing it to the decision to keep both of them.

I've got my problems with Dubas but Lou left him a tough row of corn to weed.

Sure but they needed to make a better call there. Neither guy is good enough to bet the season on.

They bet the season on them?
 

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