Leafs sign TJ Brodie [4 years, 5M AAV]

[gunnar36]

In typical Dubas fashion, we overpay on another contract to put further strain on cap.  Don't get me wrong, Brodie is a good defencemen, but not a 5 million guy in todays current cap crunch market.  Shattenkirk, who possesses what I perceive to be a more sought after skillset by most teams, signed for 3.9 x 3 to go to a crap team.

I'm not sure there's a team in the league that would take Shattenkirk over Brodie right now.

Shattenkirk is basically Barrie. Why would we do that again?

Yeah by no means was I saying I would want Shattenkirk over Brodie based on the makeup of this defence, just saying the number seems high.

 

[herman]

Can you describe that skill set and what makes it more sought after than what Brodie's?

A little more dangerous offensively, can QB a powerplay.

When everyone harps on the Leafs defense sucking, it is because we do not have enough PP QBs.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Yeah by no means was I saying I would want Shattenkirk over Brodie based on the makeup of this defence, just saying the number seems high.

Yeah, it's definitely an investment, but keep in mind that he can play right D on the top pairing, which is the greatest area of need and one of the hardest candidates to find - and also, the term is very, very attractive considering his age.

And I thought Shattenkirk was playing very well in Tampa, but I'd totally take brodie at this money over Shattenkirk at his new deal, and it's not even close.

 

[herman]

Is TJ Brodie?s name Terry Jerry?

 

[Kin]

Is TJ Brodie?s name Terry Jerry?

It isn't but, damnit, it should be.

 

[wnc096]

In typical Dubas fashion, we overpay on another contract to put further strain on cap.  Don't get me wrong, Brodie is a good defencemen, but not a 5 million guy in todays current cap crunch market.  Shattenkirk, who possesses what I perceive to be a more sought after skillset by most teams, signed for 3.9 x 3 to go to a crap team.

I'm not sure there's a team in the league that would take Shattenkirk over Brodie right now.

Shattenkirk is basically Barrie. Why would we do that again?

Yeah by no means was I saying I would want Shattenkirk over Brodie based on the makeup of this defence, just saying the number seems high.

I?ve been to hundreds of flames games over the years Brodie plays defense...he is better and more valuable than Shattenkirk.  He made Gio better and i think will compliment Reilly

 

[cujo4ever]

Is TJ Brodie?s name Terry Jerry?

I thought it was Trodie Jodie?

 

[Kin]

Tanev for 4.5 over 4 to Calgary kind of undercuts the notion that this was an overpay.

 

[herman]

Brodie is also only half a mil more than Zaitsev for the same remaining term.

 

[Bender]

Tanev for 4.5 over 4 to Calgary kind of undercuts the notion that this was an overpay.

That seems like a pretty risky move.

 

[herman]

https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2020/10/10/kyle-dubas-addresses-the-tj-brodie-signing/

We know there was interest in Brodie last summer. What is it that you like about this player now for well over a year?

Dubas: The things that we liked: The fact that he has played with an elite partner in Mark Giordano for a number of years now, and they?ve had a lot of success as a pair. As we have tried to find a partner and/or Jake Muzzin now that can complement them and boost the results of our team, TJ ? the style and the way that he plays and operates on the ice, with his skill set defensively and with the puck ? just always seemed to fit what we were looking for. That is why he has been a target of ours and why we are happy to have him here.

As a left shot that plays the right side, do sometimes we on the outside make too big of a deal of what way a guy curves his stick? [editor's note: why did the question have to sound so sexual]

Dubas: Trust me, there are people on the inside who make a big deal out of it as well. It is not just confined to media or fans. We talk about it a lot in here as well.

I think the thing with TJ is that he has done it for so long going back to the OHL. It is the side he prefers. He is able to play on both sides, but he has predominately played the right. There are some guys who can?t do it ? it?s just the way they receive the puck and the ability to shift it across their bodies and make plays. It takes an extra second or half a second. It is not for everybody. Some players struggle to do it, but he has shown the capacity to do it and the intelligence to do it. He has done it for such a long time now that it is not even really in dispute. It is what makes the most sense for us.

 

[ZBBM]

Now, this is more like it.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1314722781460869127

K I thought this meant we had to have them on our protection list and we weren?t allowed to expose them.
But now are we saying they don?t count?

I think they have to have an NMC for 2021-22, Seattle's first season, to require protection.

Okay I need a clarification here (cc: Deebo, busta, et al.), because Johnston saying the Leafs "don't have to protect Brodie" can be interpreted two ways.

If we want to keep Muzzin and Brodie past the expansion, we can opt to protect them, right? But because their contracts are NTCs for the Seattle expansion season, we could leave them exposed if the fit wasn't right.

So if we land Weegar to go along with Reilly, Muzzin, Brodie, that's 4 D we'd like to keep and we'd have to go 8-1 and lose Dermott.

 

[Deebo]

Okay I need a clarification here (cc: Deebo, busta, et al.), because Johnston saying the Leafs "don't have to protect Brodie" can be interpreted two ways.

If we want to keep Muzzin and Brodie past the expansion, we can opt to protect them, right? But because their contracts are NTCs for the Seattle expansion season, we could leave them exposed if the fit wasn't right.

So if we land Weegar to go along with Reilly, Muzzin, Brodie, that's 4 D we'd like to keep and we'd have to go 8-1 and lose Dermott.

When Johnston says "don't have to", I'm pretty sure he just means they aren't forced to.

They do have to if they prevent Seattle from taking them.

Yeah, if they go 8+1, its those 4D that you mention, + the top 4 forwards.

Lose one of whoever is left here out of Johnsson, Kerfoot and Dermott.

 

[herman]

Okay I need a clarification here (cc: Deebo, busta, et al.), because Johnston saying the Leafs "don't have to protect Brodie" can be interpreted two ways.

If we want to keep Muzzin and Brodie past the expansion, we can opt to protect them, right? But because their contracts are NTCs for the Seattle expansion season, we could leave them exposed if the fit wasn't right.

So if we land Weegar to go along with Reilly, Muzzin, Brodie, that's 4 D we'd like to keep and we'd have to go 8-1 and lose Dermott.

When Johnston says "don't have to", I'm pretty sure he just means they aren't forced to.

They do have to if they prevent Seattle from taking them.

Yeah, if they go 8+1, its those 4D that you mention, + the top 4 forwards.

Lose one of whoever is left here out of Johnsson, Kerfoot and Dermott.

Thanks... because it really read like, oh they're basically exempt from the draft.

Our expansion draft used to be so straightforward last year. It's nice having too many good players.

 

[Deebo]

Okay I need a clarification here (cc: Deebo, busta, et al.), because Johnston saying the Leafs "don't have to protect Brodie" can be interpreted two ways.

If we want to keep Muzzin and Brodie past the expansion, we can opt to protect them, right? But because their contracts are NTCs for the Seattle expansion season, we could leave them exposed if the fit wasn't right.

So if we land Weegar to go along with Reilly, Muzzin, Brodie, that's 4 D we'd like to keep and we'd have to go 8-1 and lose Dermott.

When Johnston says "don't have to", I'm pretty sure he just means they aren't forced to.

They do have to if they prevent Seattle from taking them.

Yeah, if they go 8+1, its those 4D that you mention, + the top 4 forwards.

Lose one of whoever is left here out of Johnsson, Kerfoot and Dermott.

Thanks... because it really read like, oh they're basically exempt from the draft.

Our expansion draft used to be so straightforward last year. It's nice having too many good players.

It really isn't that bad if all we are looking at is losing one of Johnsson, Dermott or Kerfoot.

If one of these players finds another level and are good enough to be upset about losing for nothing then they might be able to be traded ahead of the expansion draft to a team who has an expansion slot available.

 

[ZBBM]

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Lehtonen

This is so immensely better than having Barrie and Ceci occupying two of these spaces.

Anybody think Liljegren can bust his way into the lineup?  I'd hate to see him get lost in the shuffle until he's had more of a chance.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Lehtonen

This is so immensely better than having Barrie and Ceci occupying two of these spaces.

Anybody think Liljegren can bust his way into the lineup?  I'd hate to see him get lost in the shuffle until he's had more of a chance.

Nothing wrong leaving Liljegren on the Marlies. He's only 21 and if Lehtonen is as good as they say, they may not be able to afford him in 21/22

 

[ZBBM]

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Lehtonen

This is so immensely better than having Barrie and Ceci occupying two of these spaces.

Anybody think Liljegren can bust his way into the lineup?  I'd hate to see him get lost in the shuffle until he's had more of a chance.

Nothing wrong leaving Liljegren on the Marlies. He's only 21 and if Lehtonen is as good as they say, they may not be able to afford him in 21/22

True all, and I understand that they may need him there for cap savings alone, especially at the start of the season as part of Pridham's Two-Step.  But he is, potentially, the RHD we need.  Or a RHD we need, anyway.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Rielly - Brodie
Muzzin - Holl
Sandin - Lehtonen

This is so immensely better than having Barrie and Ceci occupying two of these spaces.

Anybody think Liljegren can bust his way into the lineup?  I'd hate to see him get lost in the shuffle until he's had more of a chance.

Nothing wrong leaving Liljegren on the Marlies. He's only 21 and if Lehtonen is as good as they say, they may not be able to afford him in 21/22

True all, and I understand that they may need him there for cap savings alone, especially at the start of the season as part of Pridham's Two-Step.  But he is, potentially, the RHD we need.  Or a RHD we need, anyway.

I think he'll be on the team eventually. I like him.