Leafs trade Kadri+ to Colorado for Barrie+

[Phileas Fogg]

BTW - I heard an interview with Barrie on overdrive this aft; for a hockey player, he seemed very articulate/well-spoken. Hopefully he has a few more before the team installs his toronto media hockey robot talking point parameters.

 

[50 Mission Cap]

BTW - I heard an interview with Barrie on overdrive this aft; for a hockey player, he seemed very articulate/well-spoken. Hopefully he has a few more before the team installs his toronto media hockey robot talking point parameters.

I heard that same interview. Very well spoken, and articulate. It's nice to hear players talk about what the Leafs mean to them. In the salary cap world I think this is what MLSE was banking on. Sadly, for many years the Leafs didn't have a lot to offer by way of their line up. But both Spezza and Barrie mentioned the young talent that the Leafs have. In Spezza's case he took less money for the chance to win the Cup as a Leaf.


Its a crazy time to be a Leafs fan. Hopefully this bodes well for us in the future and more players will be of Spezzas mindset. It would definitely help with the cap crunch

 

[groundskeeper willie]

What are the rules on the expansion draft? If the Leafs resign both Muzzin and Barrie next summer (presumably both with a NTC) do they risk being forced to expose Dermott?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

What are the rules on the expansion draft? If the Leafs resign both Muzzin and Barrie next summer (presumably both with a NTC) do they risk being forced to expose Dermott?

That'd be correct. I think it'd be pretty difficult to fit both Muzzin/Barrie anyway but this is certainly another potential obstacle to that.

 

[groundskeeper willie]

What are the rules on the expansion draft? If the Leafs resign both Muzzin and Barrie next summer (presumably both with a NTC) do they risk being forced to expose Dermott?

That'd be correct. I think it'd be pretty difficult to fit both Muzzin/Barrie anyway but this is certainly another potential obstacle to that.

Thanks, that's what I thought as there is no way they go the four defenceman route and lose a young forward.

Maybe they get lucky and Muzzin really likes it in Toronto and takes a one year deal and a handshake on a longer term deal the following summer.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Reading some opinions from Avs fans, and an article about him in the Athletic today, it doesn't seem like Kerfoot actually played all that much centre with Colorado. Just took a lot of face-offs but actually played the wing. I think it's safe to assume that he'll still start at 3C but it might not be a guaranteed success. We'll see.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Reading some opinions from Avs fans, and an article about him in the Athletic today, it doesn't seem like Kerfoot actually played all that much centre with Colorado. Just took a lot of face-offs but actually played the wing. I think it's safe to assume that he'll still start at 3C but it might not be a guaranteed success. We'll see.

In today's game, I would argue that once the face off is taken, who's centre or wing isn't really relevant. Especially in the offensive zone where teams run a F1, F2, F3 system.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Reading some opinions from Avs fans, and an article about him in the Athletic today, it doesn't seem like Kerfoot actually played all that much centre with Colorado. Just took a lot of face-offs but actually played the wing. I think it's safe to assume that he'll still start at 3C but it might not be a guaranteed success. We'll see.

In today's game, I would argue that once the face off is taken, who's centre or wing isn't really relevant. Especially in the offensive zone where teams run a F1, F2, F3 system.

It's def relevant in the defensive zone.

 

[herman]

The game is pretty fluid, but generally the first forward back is going to be taking the centre defensive responsibility until a switch can be made. The player earmarked as centre should be the most likely first forward back because he should be hovering high in the OZ to cover exits. Each line makeup might result in a different pattern of play.

 

[bustaheims]

It's def relevant in the defensive zone.

That depends on the defensive system. You can still have a strong defensive system where the guy lining up at C doesn't necessarily play the defensive role of a C.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

The player earmarked as centre should be the most likely first forward back because he should be hovering high in the OZ to cover exits. Each line makeup might result in a different pattern of play.

I don't think that's necessarily true. It depends which forward had taken the F1 or F2 role in the offensive zone forecheck.

The high person is simply F3.

You definitely may have a more traditional centre in the defensive zone but does it make a difference whether that guy had started as a C on the draw or a wing? I mean, off a defensive zone draw, your responsibility as a C is to stick with your opposing C. That is all.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1149528121361620997

That?s kind of cute.

 

[Zee]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1149528121361620997

That?s kind of cute.

Scheifele : "Hey Patrik how's about you stop playing Fortnite until 6am every night before games?  You look wiped out on the ice man"

Laine: "FU and your rigid rules!"

 

[Bender]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1149528121361620997

That?s kind of cute.

I think we're happier with Barrie & Kerfoot, no?

 

[Kin]

I think we're happier with Barrie & Kerfoot, no?

It's close. Barrie is the more exciting player but Brodie maybe fits more of a need as a defensive player and would probably be cheaper to re-sign.

 

[Andy007]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1149528121361620997

That?s kind of cute.

I think we're happier with Barrie & Kerfoot, no?

Yea, I think the Col package is easily superior. Brodie isn't as good as Barrie, is two years older and still a UFA after this upcoming season. Jankowski has the 1st rnd pick "pedigree" and size that everyone covets but is the same age as Kerfoot and has produced significantly less offensively thus far. Unless the 3rd + was a major piece, I think Kadri did us all a favour here...

 

[Deebo]

https://twitter.com/account4hockey/status/1149528121361620997

That?s kind of cute.

I think we're happier with Barrie & Kerfoot, no?

Barrie over Brodie, yeah. I might have preferred Jankowski to Kerfoot though.

Appears the Leafs also would have kept Rosen and added another piece from Winnipeg in the deal.

 

[Andy007]

I think we're happier with Barrie & Kerfoot, no?

It's close. Barrie is the more exciting player but Brodie maybe fits more of a need as a defensive player and would probably be cheaper to re-sign.

Sure, but Toronto can still sign him this offseason anyway. He's 29 so it's not like the team owning his rights would give him an 8 year contract. I'm far more impressed by Col's package... (that sounds obscene  :-X )

 

[Kin]

Jankowski has the 1st rnd pick "pedigree" and size that everyone covets but is the same age as Kerfoot and has produced significantly less offensively thus far.

Eh. Kerfoot had 42 points this season while getting a pretty hefty amount of PP time while Jankowski had 32 with almost no PP time and getting a regular PK shift. In a vacuum, considering the Leafs' needs I'd rather have Jankowski.

 

[Kin]

Sure, but Toronto can still sign him this offseason anyway. He's 29 so it's not like the team owning his rights would give him an 8 year contract.

No, but having his rights gives a team more of an advantage than just that one year. It gives you exclusive negotiating rights. Provided Brodie would have liked it here and had a reasonable ask, then it's easy to see a deal getting done. If a player gets to a UFA market you do have to bid against every other team and it's probably a crapshoot at best.