Leafs trade Kadri+ to Colorado for Barrie+

[Peter D.]

I wonder if Kerfoot at $3.5 as our 3C makes more sense that Kadri at $4.5 at 3C. Kerfoot appears to be better defensively and can chip in some points here and there. Kadri seemed to be miscast a bit in the 3C role. Hopefully we can somehow retain Barrie but I'm guessing that it'll be Rielly/Barrie as our marquee D with some cheaper mid-tier options. I don't think there's any way we keep Muzzin going forward into next season.

The Kerfoot deal is a good one, and it's nice the Leafs are saving a million dollars at the position.  But strictly speaking, I'd much rather have Kadri at that amount than Kerfoot in the 3C role.  It's just Kadri was able to bring back a premium D the team needed, and was well worth the downgrade at the 3C position to do so. 

 

[ZBBM]

Did Waddell register Aho yet?  If not he just did us a favor, perhaps. 

 

[cabber24]

This lessens the blow of trading 3 years of control of Kadri for just 1 for Barrie. Trade seems a lot better now.

 

[Kin]

I know I've said stuff like this before but I really don't believe this deal would get done if there were real doubts about the team's ability to get Marner signed.

Also, while 3.5 is decent scratch, if Kerfoot can even just keep producing at his Colorado levels that is not a hard deal to move.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I know I've said stuff like this before but I really don't believe this deal would get done if there were real doubts about the team's ability to get Marner signed.

Assuming they run a 22-man roster they've left themselves just a tad over $10mil. They know Marner isn't getting $11mil.

 

[Kin]

Two things about Kerfoot to take away from his twitter account:

1. He does not use twitter much

2. He does not buck the stereotype of guys who went to Harvard letting you know they went to Harvard

 

[Zee]

I know I've said stuff like this before but I really don't believe this deal would get done if there were real doubts about the team's ability to get Marner signed.

Assuming they run a 22-man roster they've left themselves just a tad over $10mil. They know Marner isn't getting $11mil.

Paul won't be happy about this development.

 

[disco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YolBxTlIuq0
Naz on Overdrive with some farewell thoughts.

 

[herman]

2. He does not buck the stereotype of guys who went to Harvard letting you know they went to Harvard

Imagine if he was vegan and did Crossfit too.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

2. He does not buck the stereotype of guys who went to Harvard letting you know they went to Harvard

Him getting upset when people call him Alex instead of Alexander makes a lot more sense now.

 

[Kin]

A stray thought here but it's a little worth mentioning that of Kerfoot, Johnsson and Kapanen, Kerfoot is the oldest and arguably the guy I'd take last if I had to choose between the three of them yet shows up and immediately gets the most dollars/term. I hope Kap and Johnsson are happy with their deals but that's something that might irk me a little in their shoes.

 

[louisstamos]

A stray thought here but it's a little worth mentioning that of Kerfoot, Johnsson and Kapanen, Kerfoot is the oldest and arguably the guy I'd take last if I had to choose between the three of them yet shows up and immediately gets the most dollars/term. I hope Kap and Johnsson are happy with their deals but that's something that might irk me a little in their shoes.

Probably the added benefit of being a centre=$, but I'm with you - if I have to choose between the 3, he's probably last as the other two can proven point putter-uppers.  But there's probably also some home-team bias in that...

 

[Bates]

Not sure about Johnsson but I take Kerfoot over Kapanen.  He plays a more important position and plays a more complete game.

 

[Kin]

Probably the added benefit of being a centre=$, but I'm with you - if I have to choose between the 3, he's probably last as the other two can proven point putter-uppers.  But there's probably also some home-team bias in that...

I mean, Kapanen outscored him while getting a regular PK shift and while Kerfoot got more than two and a half times as much PP work.

Now, admittedly, in Kapanen's shoes less term is probably a good thing but, I don't know, the optics of it just struck me.

 

[Guilt Trip]

A stray thought here but it's a little worth mentioning that of Kerfoot, Johnsson and Kapanen, Kerfoot is the oldest and arguably the guy I'd take last if I had to choose between the three of them yet shows up and immediately gets the most dollars/term. I hope Kap and Johnsson are happy with their deals but that's something that might irk me a little in their shoes.

I don't think so. Johnsson is also 24. 
When it comes to comparing the players...
Kerfoot is a centre= usually worth more. 100k more then Johnsson. 300k more then Kappy but he's signed for only 3 years and those contracts are a little less.
Kerfoot has back to back 40+ point years. Both Johnsson and Kappy have 1. Both Johnsson and Kappy have signing bonuses. Kerfoot doesn't.
Johnsson  82gp, 46pts.
Kappy 133gp, 54 pts.
Kerfoot 157gp, 85pts.
I don't see anyone getting bent out of shape here.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Yeah I'm not quite sure we can really rank them with any certainty at this point, especially not having seen Kerfoot play at all. They all scored at roughly a mid-40s pace while playing pretty close minutes. Johnsson and Kapanen's 5-on-5 scoring numbers were a step above but they also played a lot with Matthews while Kerfoot's primary 5-on-5 linemates were Tyson Jost and J.T. Compher. Kerfoot, from some numbers that I've seen, is also the best of the 3 defensively.

To me they all look like middle-6 players. Above average 3rd liners who could be complimentary players on a 2nd line. Johnsson and Kerfoot got a little more than Kapanen because they both bought a year of UFA service. Kerfoot got a little more than Johnsson because he plays centre. I think all that's pretty fair.

One thing I'll be curious about is to see if Kerfoot got the same signing bonuses, or if Dubas reserves that for players who developed here. I'm betting it's the latter.

 

[Guilt Trip]

One thing I'll be curious about is to see if Kerfoot got the same signing bonuses, or if Dubas reserves that for players who developed here. I'm betting it's the latter.

No signing bonus for Kerfoot according to CapFriendly

 

[Kin]

Johnsson  82gp, 46pts.
Kappy 133gp, 54 pts.
Kerfoot 157gp, 85pts.

Like I said, that's with Kerfoot getting twice as much PP time as Kapanen and Johnsson got combined last year.

 

[Bates]

Johnsson  82gp, 46pts.
Kappy 133gp, 54 pts.
Kerfoot 157gp, 85pts.

Like I said, that's with Kerfoot getting twice as much PP time as Kapanen and Johnsson got combined last year.

But almost 2 minutes less per game while driving a line rather than being the 3rd wheel.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

One thing I'll be curious about is to see if Kerfoot got the same signing bonuses, or if Dubas reserves that for players who developed here. I'm betting it's the latter.

No signing bonus for Kerfoot according to CapFriendly

If you're just looking at his profile page on their site, those aren't confirmed numbers yet (at least in terms of structure).