Leafs trade Lindholm for Nic Petan
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Dubas was probably thinking about next year for this deal as much as this year. Lindholm was likely a goner this summer, and the team is going to need cheap players to fill the line-up/press box. Petan's a RFA this summer and will probably get a similar contract to the one he signed last summer (1 year, $874,125).
edit: Also considering Moore's promotion, there's a decent chance that Lindholm wouldn't have even played another game for the Leafs.
edit: Also considering Moore's promotion, there's a decent chance that Lindholm wouldn't have even played another game for the Leafs.
herman
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
He's not a Mitch Marner, but multiple 100-pt seasons in junior and then going a point per game in the AHL is not nothing.
Like Leivo, skill players need other skilled players to play with, and he wasn't getting that whatsoever with the Jets.
Guilt Trip
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And if he can replace the Goat, all is good.Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
herman
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https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1100152852360675330
Players the dev staff have directly maximized (or are in the process of maximizing): Gauthier, Marchment, Holl, Marincin, Moore, Dermott, Kapanen, Johnsson
Dubas coveted Yanni Gourde back in his AHL days...
https://twitter.com/LeafsNews/status/1100154270131867648
Players the dev staff have directly maximized (or are in the process of maximizing): Gauthier, Marchment, Holl, Marincin, Moore, Dermott, Kapanen, Johnsson
Dubas coveted Yanni Gourde back in his AHL days...
https://twitter.com/LeafsNews/status/1100154270131867648
Guilt Trip
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But it doesn't mean Philly would have settled for that from the Leafs. I doubt we'll ever know what was the ask/offer. I'm pretty sure if it was Brown and a 4th, Dubas would have made that deal.Frank E said:
Simmonds would have played 4th line minutes and PP time, or taken taken away from Kapanen. Then he would have walked as an UFA. I'm not sure I'd take that over Brown who plays 4th line minutes and PK time, and will likely bring some sort of asset back in the summer if/when he's traded.
bustaheims
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Frank E said:
Value-wise, yeah, you're probably pretty close. I don't think the interest was really there from either side, though.
Frank E
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CarltonTheBear said:
Yeah, I can't agree with that.
I think a guy like Simmonds that plays a physical game could really help on Matthews' wing, especially in a Boston series.
I'm sure Dubas inquired, as there has been a fair bit of talk about the lack of grinders, and I'd guess that Philly just wasn't interested in such a deal...as busta said.
Frank E said:
If this was two year ago I'd absolutely agree. He's a shadow of his former self these days. And if he was playing on Matthews wing he'd be holding him back.
Simmonds has 15 5-on-5 points this season, a P/60 of 1.11.
On the Leafs that would put him tied for 9th among forwards (with Connor Brown) in points, and dead last in points per 60 (yes, Lindholm and Gauthier would be above him).
Kin
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I forget who it was on TSN who said that the Leafs failed to address any of their three needs which they identified as:
1) Back-up goaltending
2) RHD
3) Toughness
Where I think I disagree is the idea that today was a good day to do any of those things. That said, I agree that these are things that the team should keep an eye towards as they enter a different phase of team building. I think the team is pretty good for small, speedy skilled forwards. They should start rolling the dice on some bigger guys in the hopes that they can develop into guys who can contribute offensively and put pressure on the defense. Ditto they should invest some higher picks in goaltending.
1) Back-up goaltending
2) RHD
3) Toughness
Where I think I disagree is the idea that today was a good day to do any of those things. That said, I agree that these are things that the team should keep an eye towards as they enter a different phase of team building. I think the team is pretty good for small, speedy skilled forwards. They should start rolling the dice on some bigger guys in the hopes that they can develop into guys who can contribute offensively and put pressure on the defense. Ditto they should invest some higher picks in goaltending.
I guess I agree with doing nothing at the deadline. Getting Muzzin was already a pretty big splash. And I quite like the minor trade they made today for Petan. We'll see what happens. Hopefully we don't have to play Boston. I think we have a shot at taking down Tampa Bay and we could easily beat Montreal. Even against Boston there is a decent chance we could beat them. I just think the book might be out on the Leafs. Teams are starting to wear them down physically and beat them.