Leafs Training Camp Opens

[herman]

Names still on the roster:

Forwards:
Jeremy Bracco, Adam Brooks, Connor Brown, Tony Cameranesi, Marc-Andre Cliche, Rich Clune, Byron Froese, Frederik Gauthier, Colin Greening, Peter Holland, Zach Hyman, Andreas Johnsson, Nazem Kadri, Kasperi Kapanen, Leo Komarov, Brooks Laich, Josh Leivo, Brendan Leipsic, Tobias Lindberg, Mitch Marner, Matt Martin, Auston Matthews, Milan Michalek, Trevor Moore, William Nylander, Brandon Prust, Kerby Rychel, Colin Smith, Nikita Soshnikov, Dmytro Timashov, James van Riemsdyk

Defense:
Nikolas Brouillard, Andrew Campbell, Connor Carrick, Frank Corrado, Travis Dermott, Jake Gardiner, Justin Holl, Raman Hrabarenka, Matt Hunwick, Viktor Loov, Martin Marincin, Andrew Nielsen, Roman Polak, Morgan Rielly, Rinat Valiev, Nikita Zaitsev

Goal:
Frederik Andersen, Antoine Bibeau, Jhonas Enroth, Kasimir Kaskisuo, Garret Sparks

 

[Frank E]

Names still on the roster:

Forwards:
Jeremy Bracco, Adam Brooks, Tony Cameranesi, Marc-Andre Cliche, Rich Clune, Byron Froese, Frederik Gauthier, Colin Greening, Peter Holland, Zach Hyman, Andreas Johnsson, Nazem Kadri, Kasperi Kapanen, Leo Komarov, Brooks Laich, Josh Leivo, Brendan Leipsic, Tobias Lindberg, Mitch Marner, Matt Martin, Auston Matthews, Milan Michalek, Trevor Moore, William Nylander, Brandon Prust, Kerby Rychel, Colin Smith, Nikita Soshnikov, Dmytro Timashov, James van Riemsdyk

Defense:
Nikolas Brouillard, Andrew Campbell, Connor Carrick, Frank Corrado, Travis Dermott, Jake Gardiner, Justin Holl, Raman Hrabarenka, Matt Hunwick, Viktor Loov, Martin Marincin, Andrew Nielsen, Roman Polak, Morgan Rielly, Rinat Valiev, Nikita Zaitsev

Goal:
Frederik Andersen, Antoine Bibeau, Jhonas Enroth, Kasimir Kaskisuo, Garret Sparks

Also Brown.

 

[herman]

Names still on the roster:

Forwards:
Jeremy Bracco, Adam Brooks, Tony Cameranesi, Marc-Andre Cliche, Rich Clune, Byron Froese, Frederik Gauthier, Colin Greening, Peter Holland, Zach Hyman, Andreas Johnsson, Nazem Kadri, Kasperi Kapanen, Leo Komarov, Brooks Laich, Josh Leivo, Brendan Leipsic, Tobias Lindberg, Mitch Marner, Matt Martin, Auston Matthews, Milan Michalek, Trevor Moore, William Nylander, Brandon Prust, Kerby Rychel, Colin Smith, Nikita Soshnikov, Dmytro Timashov, James van Riemsdyk

Defense:
Nikolas Brouillard, Andrew Campbell, Connor Carrick, Frank Corrado, Travis Dermott, Jake Gardiner, Justin Holl, Raman Hrabarenka, Matt Hunwick, Viktor Loov, Martin Marincin, Andrew Nielsen, Roman Polak, Morgan Rielly, Rinat Valiev, Nikita Zaitsev

Goal:
Frederik Andersen, Antoine Bibeau, Jhonas Enroth, Kasimir Kaskisuo, Garret Sparks

Also Brown.

I knew I was missing someone. Forgot Kapanen on the first time through too.

Edit: Typed all that out manually when I could've just waited for this: Remaining Camp Roster

 

[Fletch]

I think I agree, Nik.  But are there any other options?  I am not up on this stuff, but could they lend him (or whatever the hell they call it) to a Euro team?

We'd talked about it before and I don't know where we came down on whether it was possible but I remember still thinking that would be a bad idea vs. keeping him in a limited role with the Leafs. There'd be no guarantee a Euro league team wouldn't bench him if he struggles, you'd be asking him to get used to a new country/culture and he wouldn't be getting feedback in terms of practicing/conditioning from Leafs staff.

I'm 100% positive it's Leafs or London for Marner.  He can't be loaned to a European team.  Its part of the NHL-CHL agreement.

It would not surprise me if Lou finds a loophole, and Marner spends a significant amount of time in the AHL on a conditioning stint.  I am not sure on the rules, but I think that AHL conditioning stints are allowed.

 

[Kin]

It would not surprise me if Lou finds a loophole, and Marner spends a significant amount of time in the AHL on a conditioning stint.  I am not sure on the rules, but I think that AHL conditioning stints are allowed.

For various reasons, that wouldn't work:

13.8 Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for more than fourteen (14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade the Re-Entry Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during the period of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Some team tried to do that same thing a couple years ago, Buffalo with Grigorenko I think. And yeah the league didn't allow it.

 

[Fletch]

Lamoriello is the king of loopholes though.  If anyone can find one, Lou is the man.

 

[Kin]

If Lamoriello were especially astute at finding loopholes, you'd think the Leafs would have figured out the Cowen thing. Or the Devils wouldn't have been docked picks for the Kovalchuk signing. Or the Leafs wouldn't have an overage.

Or, or, or, etc. If Lamoriello were a wizard, he wouldn't have left the Devils in such a mess.

 

[bustaheims]

Lamoriello is the king of loopholes though.  If anyone can find one, Lou is the man.

If there was a loophole, another team would have found it by now. Between the CHL, the AHL, and the NHL, the rules in this instance are pretty much airtight.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Lines at today's scrimmages, via @markhmasters:

Group 1

Rychel-Kadri-Holland
Hyman-Nylander-Martin
Lindberg-C.Smith-Clune
Leivo-Gauthier-Leipsic
Cameranesi

Valiev-Carrick
Dermott-Marincin
Loov-Holl
Hrabarenka-Brouillard

Group 2

JVR-Matthews-Komarov
Michalek-Bozak-Marner
Greening-Laich-Brown
Prust-Froese-Kapanen
Timashov

Gardiner-Corrado
Hunwick-Zaitsev
Nielsen-Rielly
Campbell-Polak

 

[herman]

Brooks, Bracco, Cliche, Johnsson, Soshnikov, Moore are not in a group. For some reason.
? Kristen Shilton (@kristen_shilton) September 28, 2016

Circling back quickly - those five non-injured guys are still here, being used when needed
? Kristen Shilton (@kristen_shilton) September 28, 2016

 

[Frank E]

Didn't we already determine that Soshnikov was a little injured?

 

[herman]

Didn't we already determine that Soshnikov was a little injured?

Yes. The other five are not.

In other news, here is Matthews ruining practice for everyone.

 

[Kaberle15]

He was running some drills with Marner some 2 on 2

 

[Highlander]

Good Lupul is not at practice, that shot would have shattered him into  1000 shards.

 

[Kaberle15]

BTW, as expected, he is using #34

 

[CarltonTheBear]

In other news, here is Matthews ruining practice for everyone.

Oh my god look how proud of it he is. I'm going to love this guy.

 

[herman]

In other news, here is Matthews ruining practice for everyone.

Oh my god look how proud of it he is. I'm going to love this guy.

Matthews said it was probably the worst shot of his life
? Mark Masters (@markhmasters) September 28, 2016

 

[herman]

Here's the Marner/Matthews 2v2 drill Gardiner51 mentioned:
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/781166596735860736

 

[jonlleafs]

In other news, here is Matthews ruining practice for everyone.

Oh my god look how proud of it he is. I'm going to love this guy.

Matthews said it was probably the worst shot of his life
? Mark Masters (@markhmasters) September 28, 2016

Now there's going to be 10 articles about Matthews breaking the glass and how hard his shot is and what he was thinking at the moment it broke and how he felt about Marner's pass and was it on his tape and...