Sudafederov
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Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Garth Snow is plotting right now.
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Derk said:
I agree. It seems so far that teams have been able to get out from under these things (right Burkie?). Of course the trades that have occurred have been at the relative beginning of these deals so the player should still be performing at a rate that earned the deal in the first place. It will be when these guys turn to slugs with 5-6-7 years left on there deals that things will get interesting.
Redleaf
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Beowulf said:
Gillis is is own worst enemy with these negotiations. Just when the story is starting to simmer, he holds this interview and claims a deal is nearly done.
It had better be, because if it isn't, the only thing he has done is turn the heat back up to a boil again. All the pressure is on him, until he finds a team that accepts his terms on a trade. This guy really is a joke.
Beowulf
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RedLeaf said:
I agree, and as others have mentioned it really does seem like another instance of Gillis manipulating the media to try and stir up some action on the Luongo front and coax a better offer from teams. So far it hasn't worked, but yeah everytime we hear news about Luongo these days, it's mostly initiated by Gillis and it's getting more like a "boy who cried wolf" scenario.
But that being said I still pray that there is some truth to it and the Canucks are actually close to a deal with another team, because I am not a fan of him coming to the Leafs unless it's a bargain basement price; and obviously such a deal is not going to happen.
Frank E
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RedLeaf said:
Just consider that he's just using that kind of rhetoric to put pressure on a team to make a deal. I doubt there's any team with a deal in place with the pieces he's looking for...it's just posturing.
The problem Gillis has is that he's already stated the return he's looking for publicly...and if Luongo doesn't play well, and fast, his return may very well be nothing.
Rebel_1812
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This is just wrong in every possible way.Nik Pollock said:
Rebel_1812
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cw said:
Yeah philly is overflowing with good players. Philly is the odds on favorite.
Moot Point
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It might be the Tampa Bay Lightning. The player that needs to be moved first would be Lecavelier. Plus Luongo still has his no trade clause which would greatly reduce the number of teams in the running.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414237
Are Vancouver Canucks GM Mike Gillis' comments that he has a Roberto Luongo deal in place accurate?
LeBrun - I can tell you, via sources, that Robert Luongo is still a member of the Vancouver Canucks. They are not closer to trading him, despite the kerfuffle that was caused with Mike Gillis' quote in Cam Cole's column.
Is there another team out there we haven't spent a lot of time on? What about the Philadelphia Flyers? If the season ends and Luongo is still a member of the Canucks, I believe the Flyers could still be a factor if Ilya Bryzgalov has another terrible season and they are willing to buy him out. Until then, I don't see the Flyers as a possible trade partner. Toronto remains the number one destination and whether Gillis was trying to smoke out the Leafs, that's a possibility, but they believe they are the only trade partner and they are trying to wait out Vancouver. It's a game of chicken.
Are Vancouver Canucks GM Mike Gillis' comments that he has a Roberto Luongo deal in place accurate?
LeBrun - I can tell you, via sources, that Robert Luongo is still a member of the Vancouver Canucks. They are not closer to trading him, despite the kerfuffle that was caused with Mike Gillis' quote in Cam Cole's column.
Is there another team out there we haven't spent a lot of time on? What about the Philadelphia Flyers? If the season ends and Luongo is still a member of the Canucks, I believe the Flyers could still be a factor if Ilya Bryzgalov has another terrible season and they are willing to buy him out. Until then, I don't see the Flyers as a possible trade partner. Toronto remains the number one destination and whether Gillis was trying to smoke out the Leafs, that's a possibility, but they believe they are the only trade partner and they are trying to wait out Vancouver. It's a game of chicken.
bustaheims
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princedpw said:
Lecavalier's more likely to be useful for the entirety of his than Luongo.
bustaheims said:
But LeCavalier starts off, this year, with a cap hit that probably exceeds his worth by perhaps $2 million and it will just keep getting worse. It looks to me like his shots per game have started a slow, consistent decline already and that is very worrisome. Now, if Tampa could keep some of his salary ...
maplesyrup
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No to both but gun held to my head? Yeah, I'd take Lou's deal over Vinny's as well.
bustaheims
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RedLeaf said:
5 years might be on the optimistic side for Luongo. Goalies are a little unpredictable, and when they start to fall, it tends to go fast. Based on the history of guys who have played the position, Luongo really has somewhere between 2 and 6 seasons of effective starting goalie type play left in him - with the most likely number being 4 (and that includes this season). After that, you have a number of years where he's not likely to even be particularly effective as a backup - and, if he doesn't retire, you're left with a big chunk of dead cap space (and, if he does retire, a smaller chunk of dead cap space). At least, with Lecavalier, if he's healthy, he'll be able to fill a 3rd/4th line role for the entirety of his contract.