Lupul signs five-year contract extension
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For those upset we gave a contract to player based on one season:
This signing is likened to the Jays' signings of Bautista and Dickey. Both were high-paying but not over-paying contracts that were given out based on one good season. In both cases, if the player played to the ability he showed in his one good season the contract would be a relative bargain. This Lupul deal is no different. The Leafs have a great team-friendly contract on their hands if Lupul continues to be a top-10 scorer.
This signing is likened to the Jays' signings of Bautista and Dickey. Both were high-paying but not over-paying contracts that were given out based on one good season. In both cases, if the player played to the ability he showed in his one good season the contract would be a relative bargain. This Lupul deal is no different. The Leafs have a great team-friendly contract on their hands if Lupul continues to be a top-10 scorer.
GhostofPotvin29
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Dickey's had more than 1 good season.
pnjunction
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Awesome. I love Lupes.
The pessimist in me can't help but wonder if we just bought in at a really high point, but I don't think we did. He didn't look really great last night but still came close to burying one.
And he if he can keep playing like last year and stay healthy, 5.25 for a point-per-game player is an amazing deal.
The pessimist in me can't help but wonder if we just bought in at a really high point, but I don't think we did. He didn't look really great last night but still came close to burying one.
And he if he can keep playing like last year and stay healthy, 5.25 for a point-per-game player is an amazing deal.
Sudafederov
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Maybe now he'll be able to get a reservation.
Kin
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Justin said:
The trade, probably not, but the contract isn't all that outrageous even if it were only based on the two seasons Dickey had prior to winning the Cy Young.
Anyways, with regards to Lupul, you either had to go the route of signing him or trading him and if the inclination was to sign him then, well, it's not a bad contract. That said, I do worry a little that this means Nonis' plan is to sort of tinker with the club as opposed to blow it up.
Strangelove
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Justin said:
That doesn't negate the fact that he's far more proven than you're implying.
As for the Lupul signing, I don't like it much and think we bought high. Better to wait until the end of the season to see if his injury risks and/or other deficiencies pose a problem (or at least until his likely regression occurs). If he likes it here as much as he says I can't see how waiting would have made a drastic difference even if he repeats last season's performance; and in any case waiting until then would have been worthwhile from the perspective of risk. I don't think he's proven enough to be locked in as part of the long-term foundation of the team.
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Bullfrog said:
I meant bought high in the sense that I don't believe he is a point per game player and yet is being signed right after a ppg season.
Nik Pollock said:
I've never read or heard anything to make me think Nonis was ever going to blow the team up. If anything, I thought it was pretty clear that he was basically set to continue on Burke's path.
Either way, I don't think there was ever a chance they'd move Lupul after he fit in so well with Kessel. Even if Nonis planned on tearing down a lot of the roster, I think he believes those two are keys to whatever success might happen in Toronto in the next few years.
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Bonsixx said:
Agreed, but it does make you wonder, given Lupuls age, if Nonis plans on bringing in more veterans, or continuing to build on the youth movement. In other words, does he plan on going for it soon or waiting until the younger players mature? The 'plan' still seems a little vague.
nutman said:
Just those little holes of #1, Stud D-Man, and #1 goalie.
There is an article on TSN about how Bryan Colangelo has assembled perhaps the best supporting cast in the NBA, but doesn't have the star talent to compete with the top end teams. This is how I feel about the Leafs.
Kin
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nutman said:
From Aesop, as translated into Old English by William Caxton(1415-1492):
He whiche is acustommed to make lesynges / how be it that he saye trouhte / yet men byleue hym not / As reherceth this fable / Of a child whiche somtyme kepte sheep / the whiche cryed ofte withoute cause / sayenge / Allas for goddes loue socoure yow me / For the wulf wylle ete my sheep / And whanne the labourers that cultyued and ered the erthe aboute hym / herd his crye / they came to help hym / the whiche came so many tymes / and fond nothyng / And as they sawe that there were no wulues / they retorned to theyr labourage / And the child dyd so many tymes for to playe hym / It happed on a day that the wulf came / and the child cryed as he was acustommed to doo / And by cause that the labourers supposed / that hit had not ben trouthe / abode stylle at theyr laboure / wherfore the wulf dyd ete the sheep /
Nik Pollock said:
I'd grant that to some extent. But one thing they wouldn't want is to lose Lupul for nothing on the UFA market.
He has a very limited NTC providing a 14 team list.
And with the Leafs, with his injury risk, if he gets hurt, it's just money on the LTIR that won't break MLSE's bank.
To some extent, one could argue Nonis is protecting a talent asset from leaving for nothing like we see a lot of GMs doing and which is why the UFA markets have been so lean the past few years. And as I mentioned above, it might help Nonis to keep Kessel.
With a number of Marlies making the club, there does seem to be an intent by Nonis to take stock of what NHL talent they have and from there, they may adjust their direction according to what they find.
If Burke was in charge, I think there would be a more serious attempt to make the playoffs because his job was on the line. Nonis seems to be willing to sit back a little more and evaluate - similar to what Burke did when he arrived in 2008-09.
Having said that, Nonis does seem closer to a retooling effort than a full rebuild but if they finish near the bottom like many predict, they should land a pretty good player via the draft.