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Maple Leafs 2016 Draft Recap

Bullfrog said:
I can't imagine that's true. I doubt Vesey expects to hit all the max bonuses.
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I'd say it's less about expectations and more about what other teams will be offering him. Unless he's dead-set on being a Leaf, the team's offer will have to the same value as what teams like the Bruins, Sabres, and Co. will be offering.
 
Vesey isn't that big a deal.

He also clearly doesn't care as much about the money as he does where he plays and who he plays for; otherwise he would've taken the extra burned ELC year with Nashville.
 
herman said:
Vesey isn't that big a deal.

He also clearly doesn't care as much about the money as he does where he plays and who he plays for; otherwise he would've taken the extra burned ELC year with Nashville.
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I think the ELC burn year is a consideration for sure, also the location. I still think he's heading to Boston but that's purely speculation.
 
herman said:
Vesey isn't that big a deal.

He also clearly doesn't care as much about the money as he does where he plays and who he plays for; otherwise he would've taken the extra burned ELC year with Nashville.
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Unless he just didn't want to play for Nashville.

If the Leafs are going to be competitive for talent they can't expect everyone to come here because they're in love with tradition.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Unless he just didn't want to play for Nashville.

If the Leafs are going to be competitive for talent they can't expect everyone to come here because they're in love with tradition.
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Judging by the fit Poile threw, I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't expect Vesey to come here, nor would I build any rosters around his name until he says otherwise.
 
Bullfrog said:
I can't imagine that's true. I doubt Vesey expects to hit all the max bonuses.
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Justin Schultz and Kevin Hayes both received max bonuses when they were in the same spot Vesey is. Defenceman Mike Reilly got a little less than half last year but I don't think he was as chased after. It's very likely that he gets the max or at least close to it.
 
herman said:
Judging by the fit Poile threw, I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't expect Vesey to come here, nor would I build any rosters around his name until he says otherwise.
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Like you, I'm not all that fussed about Vesey. I was more speaking generally.
 
Good humour in the slow times and good ribbing is great. I don't take anyhthing seriously except my family and my job, the rest is pretty much fodder for fun and Whal_____m
 
I'm just wondering, but is burning the ELC actually more money for these guys?  I mean if he comes in and lights the world on fire sure, it does, but if he has a rough year this year (on a 1-year deal)  he could potentially make only 1.0-1.5M next year guaranteed.  While that might be more money, a max bonus prospect can make like 3.5M.

Is Casey Bailey thrilled with the 2-way contract he signed with Ottawa this year that pays him 40K less than he made on his 2-year entry level deal with the Leafs?
 
L K said:
I'm just wondering, but is burning the ELC actually more money for these guys?  I mean if he comes in and lights the world on fire sure, it does, but if he has a rough year this year (on a 1-year deal)  he could potentially make only 1.0-1.5M next year guaranteed.  While that might be more money, a max bonus prospect can make like 3.5M.

Is Casey Bailey thrilled with the 2-way contract he signed with Ottawa this year that pays him 40K less than he made on his 2-year entry level deal with the Leafs?
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These guys tend to be pretty confident so I'd guess most of them don't really weight the downsides like that.

That said, I've talked about it potentially being beneficial to burn ELC deals a little quicker so I think it very well might be the case.
 
bustaheims said:
Bullfrog said:
I can't imagine that's true. I doubt Vesey expects to hit all the max bonuses.
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I'd say it's less about expectations and more about what other teams will be offering him. Unless he's dead-set on being a Leaf, the team's offer will have to the same value as what teams like the Bruins, Sabres, and Co. will be offering.
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Exactly. As long as he's offered those max potential with the Leafs, the dollars will be all even so then it comes down to preference on where he wants to play, opportunities etc.

BUT - as I said it appears Lou won't play ball. Ironic that the Leafs are haggling over money especially when they
can manage cap-wise to accommodate this.
 
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
Unless he just didn't want to play for Nashville.

If the Leafs are going to be competitive for talent they can't expect everyone to come here because they're in love with tradition.
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Judging by the fit Poile threw, I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't expect Vesey to come here, nor would I build any rosters around his name until he says otherwise.
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Not only that but like you said, Vesey is not that big a deal overall. Would I be ok with him being signed, yes, do I care if he doesn't, not really.
 
Tigger said:
Did Bailey have any bonus structure in his contract?
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https://www.capfriendly.com/players/casey-bailey
Looks like he got a small something in his first year.
 
Grundstrom also had a good showing against the US team.
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/759908309985927168
He left the following game due to what appeared to be an injury.

JD Greenway was cut from the US camp. Woll, along with Bracco, made it to the final evaluation games.
 
Not that this is the be all end all but Korshkov showed well in this fight versus Lepisto...

[youtube]YUdXyTEi9_g[/youtube]
 
If anyone wants to watch some afternoon August hockey, Canada is playing Sweden right now on TSN in a World Junior Summer Showcase game. Marner's playing on a line with Strome and Tyson Jost.

You can find a link to a youtube stream here: https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/comments/4wawvf/game_thread_1300_est_sweden_u20_vs_canada_u20/
 
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