Maple Leafs are better, but are they a playoff team?

[caver]

It's the Leaf haters that make me appreciate the Nutman!!

 

[nutman]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

 

[AvroArrow]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

Why on earth would that make you hate the Leafs?

 

[TML fan]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

 

[nutman]

I did not like the leafs we had early on in the season last year but after the moves  Burke made, and now the off season moves i am thinking we are in much better shape going in and if we keep up the pace we showed in the last half we should be in a very good spot come playoffs.

yes i am positive but way over positive  no. i just point out the good in our team not the bad like a few on here consistanly do. i know we like all teams have weak spots but i choose to point out the strong spots and we have lots of them at this point.

 

[leafplasma]

Not only will the Leafs win the Stanley Cup this year, they will win the Grey Cup and the Green Jacket.

 

[AvroArrow]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

Why on earth would that make you hate the Leafs?

Association.

edit: besides, I was being facetious.

 

[Madferret]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

 

[TML fan]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Insanely popular and insanely successful teams are still hated. I agree their lack of success has a lot to do with it, but I don't imagine them being hated any less if they became successful.

 

[BC Buds Fan]

I think some of you guys are spot on when you pinpoint the goaltending as the big question mark for next season.  I really loved what Reims did down the stretch last year, but did anyone else notice the weak spot on the high glove?  I think teams were catching on to it the last few games of the season.  I think that's one of the keys to Reimer's game for next year -- probably a function of his style of play, but something he's got to control.

I'm excited to see what this group can do -- if they get the steady goaltending and improved special teams play.  I think we'll squeak in after some 'heart attack' weeks in late May and early April.  I do believe we would have made it in last year if not for that ugly (November?) stretch earlier on.

 

[moon111]

With Gustavsson's history, not sure "some 'heart attack' weeks" is a good choice of words while discussing Leafs goaltending.

 

[riff raff]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Geez, that doesn't even happen in Florida....

 

[Madferret]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Insanely popular and insanely successful teams are still hated. I agree their lack of success has a lot to do with it, but I don't imagine them being hated any less if they became successful.

I see it the other way - they'd be less hated if they became successful.

 

[caver]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Well... you have 74 posts already. Are you coming to this site to discuss that unsuccessful team every day? Unless I am reading you wrong you say you don't want to hear about the Leafs every day. Right?

 

[TML fan]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Insanely popular and insanely successful teams are still hated. I agree their lack of success has a lot to do with it, but I don't imagine them being hated any less if they became successful.

I see it the other way - they'd be less hated if they became successful.

Did you hate the Leafs less when they knocked the Senators out of the playoffs in 4 straight meetings?

 

[Madferret]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Well... you have 74 posts already. Are you coming to this site to discuss that unsuccessful team every day? Unless I am reading you wrong you say you don't want to hear about the Leafs every day. Right?

Did I say I hated the Leafs somewhere?

 

[Madferret]

nutman makes me want to hate the Leafs...  I think I finally understand why some other fan bases hate the Leafs and their fans...

And whys that, because i am on the positive side. i think thats better then being morbid and so down on your team that all you think is the worst.

No, because you're ridiculously, unrealistically, over-the-top positive - as if the team is perfect and nothing can go wrong.  And just FYI, I'm positive about the Leafs too.  I've been one of the few preaching patience for the last few years, and now it's starting to pay off.

The Leafs are hated because they are insanely popular. The fans are hated because they support the Leafs, who are hated. No matter how reasonable or realistic you may be about the Leafs, other fans still hate you.

The difference being most "insanely popular" teams are "insanely successful" in their respective sports. Or at the very least "bi-polar successful". 
How would you like hearing about the Florida Panthers every day / all day / all year?

Insanely popular and insanely successful teams are still hated. I agree their lack of success has a lot to do with it, but I don't imagine them being hated any less if they became successful.

I see it the other way - they'd be less hated if they became successful.

Did you hate the Leafs less when they knocked the Senators out of the playoffs in 4 straight meetings?

Oh no you didn't.

 

[TML fan]

Oh, but I did 

 

[KW Sluggo]

This roster is better but playoffs are going to be a stretch that I don't think they will make.

The problem is that there are just so many teams that have improved as much as the Leafs have -- if not more.

We will know by mid November, if we swoon again then Wilson will be gone and an interim coach will be installed.