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Marlies & Growlers 2019-2020

The nice thing I don't feel like it was in the ol days when guys had to be fast tracked to the big team.

We now have Lilypad in this 3rd year with the Marlies, Sandin going strong into his 2nd year with them. Now we can have guys like Hollowell and Duzak hone their craft there for 2 or 3 years and then come up.  Nice system to have in place.  Lets hope a few of the other young D  pan out as well
 
Just watched the PPP Marlies update for the two games on the weekend.  Engvall is tearing it up.  I really think he would be a huge upgrade on Shore and Goat and him played together with the Marlies to a good effect. He needs a chance. Also why is Petan playing when we could be having a look at Bracco (Marner light).
 
Highlander said:
Not one word on Liljegren as yet, why so hush, hush??????? Enquiring minds want to know.
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The Marlies tend not to publicize injury information. Like Marchment?s been injured since training camp and not a peep.
 
Highlander said:
Also why is Petan playing when we could be having a look at Bracco (Marner light).
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They say Petan is too good for the A so that's why he's up. What I don't understand is he's really a top 6 forward type, so play him there. He should be with JT and Hyman. If the Leafs called up Bracco it would be the same crap. He'd be on the 4th line. Bracco has NHL calibre passing so i don't see why he doesn't get a shot.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Highlander said:
Also why is Petan playing when we could be having a look at Bracco (Marner light).
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They say Petan is too good for the A so that's why he's up. What I don't understand is he's really a top 6 forward type, so play him there. He should be with JT and Hyman. If the Leafs called up Bracco it would be the same crap. He'd be on the 4th line. Bracco has NHL calibre passing so i don't see why he doesn't get a shot.
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With the amount of griping we do about defensive responsibility?
 
herman said:
Highlander said:
Not one word on Liljegren as yet, why so hush, hush??????? Enquiring minds want to know.
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The Marlies tend not to publicize injury information. Like Marchment?s been injured since training camp and not a peep.
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Hey Herman, I forgot all about Marchment and now I know why.  He does get injured a lot doesn't he.  Just his ruff and tumble way of playing I guess.
 
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2019/11/14/sheldon-keefe-on-the-toronto-marlies-systems/

You?ve got new players coming in like Kenny Agostino, Pontus Aberg, and Jordan Schmaltz ? players that are experienced. The younger players are learning, too, but how long does it take for them to grasp what you are trying to do and say, ?This is something we really can sink our teeth into??

Keefe: I think it is player specific, right? Every player is going to be different in terms of how they grasp it. I think in particular with our defense, we ask them to do a lot of things with and without the puck that for many of them, they?re hearing for the first time. It is a lot different than how they are being asked to play in different places. For some of them, it is a challenge and it takes time. We believe once they get it, things really start to come together for both them and our team.

Looking at our defense, we have Sandin and Liljegren here that spent significant time with us last season. Beyond that, we have six new other guys making up our eight defensemen. It has been a challenge in that sense, but it is exciting at the same time because you get to teach these concepts and try to make the players be Marlies and play the way we want to play and the way we?ve built the program up over the last number of years. That is a fun process for me and our staff.
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How much of the systems do you share between the Marlies and Leafs? How much do they expect the Marlies to experiment with new systems? What were you told to work on with Rasmus Sandin when he was sent back to the Marlies?

Keefe: The process really hasn?t changed a whole lot in terms of my relationship with the Leafs and with Mike Babcock and the Leafs staff. I take part in all of their meetings in the summertime and I?m with them all through camp and exhibition season. I am just fortunate enough to be a part of that staff throughout the entire process. Most of the players that are with us now are also in that mix. Learning the system and the structure ? that part of it doesn?t change when they come here, obviously.

We are trying to build players to play for the Maple Leafs, so how we are playing defensively and the structure that we play with and the expectation of what they want here is something we work towards every single day. We are constantly pulling clips from Leafs games and showings them to players what they are expected to know and what it looks like at the NHL level. We are reinforcing that daily.

Within that, we believe given we are more in a development level, we are also trying to try different things and push players beyond a certain structure and a certain system ? trying to create really complete players and work on different skills that may be more advanced beyond what is expected so that when the opportunities are there, they can take advantage of them. But certainly knowing the structure and knowing the spots to be in is priority one, and that?s established very well by Mike and the Leafs training camp by day one of training camp.
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Liljegren is back to skating (alongside Kivihalme at practice today) and Marchment is also back on his feet since training camp.
 
herman said:
Liljegren is back to skating (alongside Kivihalme at practice today) and Marchment is also back on his feet since training camp.
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Is it worrisome that this guy seems to be hurt a lot?  Are the injuries connected to one another?  Is there a reason to be worried about future health?

I think someone also posted that Sandin was injured too.  He's had several injuries as well, hasn't he?
 
princedpw said:
herman said:
Liljegren is back to skating (alongside Kivihalme at practice today) and Marchment is also back on his feet since training camp.
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Is it worrisome that this guy seems to be hurt a lot?  Are the injuries connected to one another?  Is there a reason to be worried about future health?

I think someone also posted that Sandin was injured too.  He's had several injuries as well, hasn't he?
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They?re teens playing in a men?s league full of guys who grew up being told hockey players need to be tough and that?s what will get you into the lineup and then now it doesn?t (without requisite skill and work rate), so here they are trying to prove their worth by mashing people in the AHL.

Sandin and Liljegren routinely play 30 min when they?re in the lineup so... that?s why they get injured sometimes.

https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1196466498711240707
Their injuries thus far have all been incidental to playing a game where vulcanized rubber and giant bodies are flying around, and generally being super involved in everything.
 
doot de doot
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1196888813617975299
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1196889181852753921
https://twitter.com/scottcwheeler/status/1196889583771881473
 
You better write a nice letter to Santa, or pray to whoever it is you pray to when you need good fortune at the expense of others...the Leafs sure need these guys to take a step.

 
What happened to all the prospect reports on PPP and other sites. Looks like their are no Marlies or Growlers or prospects to hear about.  :'( :'( :'( :'(
 
Huge offensive boost for the Marlies with Petan, Marchment, and Marincin joining the ranks.
 
herman said:
Huge offensive boost for the Marlies with Petan, Marchment, and Marincin joining the ranks.
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Marincin won't be helping. He doesn't play much on the Marlies either. He's played a whopping 2 games for them this year.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Marincin won't be helping. He doesn't play much on the Marlies either. He's played a whopping 2 games for them this year.
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He's only been on their roster for like 4 days this season. How many games should he have played in that time?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
Marincin won't be helping. He doesn't play much on the Marlies either. He's played a whopping 2 games for them this year.
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He's only been on their roster for like 4 days this season. How many games should he have played in that time?
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I actually thought it was more seeing he was waived early Nov but I see he was only sent down last week. Will be interesting to see how much he plays there.
 
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