WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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The treatment of Scrivens has been a disgrace. I don't care about the penalties at this stage, I want Orr or Broll to hospitalize the next guy who goes near him, either that or send Tokarski to the infirmary.
Marlies Talk
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Britishbulldog
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WhatIfGodWasALeaf said:
I agree. This is the best game in the final for the Marlies so far. They are playing alot tougher.
maplesyrup
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Well, it was a great run... Way to go boys!
crazyperfectdevil
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injuries did them in
crazyperfectdevil said:
Yes, but Norfolk are the better team. They deserve the Cup, but I agree with the above posters, Scrivens has been run at the entire series.
All in all, good run by the Marlies; I just hope Gardiner hasnt developed some bad habits. You cant play that way in the NHL.
LeafsInSeven
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Well, it was an excellent season for the Marlies. It might have been an interesting match up if the Marlies hadn't sustained so many key injuries. The Frattin injury especially hurt them because he was a constant threat in the previous series. Basically they lost the team's 4 best forwards (Zigomanis, Kadri, D'Amigo and Frattin). I wonder how the series would have gone with Norfolk missing their 4 best forwards.
Savour this season, there are going to be a lot of changes in the off-season. Several rookies are coming in.
Savour this season, there are going to be a lot of changes in the off-season. Several rookies are coming in.
Britishbulldog
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puckhog78 said:
Norfolk clearly was the better team.
I was also surprised at how poorly Gardiner played in a lower league. He seemed soft and a bit stupid in his play selection.
BlueWhiteBlood
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Scrivens had a phenomenal year. I think the Leafs definitely need to hang on to him for the long haul. I'm glad our young prospects got the experience of that long run to the finals either way, it's only a good thing.
GhostofPotvin29
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Britishbulldog said:
It shouldn't be forgotten that Gardiner looked pretty much lost defensively his whole time with the Leafs as well.
Potvin29 said:
To be honest, I think that kind of has been forgotten since the season ended.
bustaheims
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Potvin29 said:
Yeah. His defensive play is still definitely a work in progress. It got better over the course of the season, but, there's still a lot of room for improvement there.
The Red Polar Bear
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Britishbulldog said:
I think he's just not used to playing this many games in a year. Didn't he play something like 40 last year? If you include preseason, NHL regular, AHL regular and AHL playoffs, he's probably around 100 this year.
Mental fatigue and such.
hockeyfan1
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Congrats to Norfolk on their victory, and, congrats to the Marlies, too, for their exceptional season. It is a testimonial not only to the Marlies as a team, but also their coaching staff, particularly coach Dallas Eakins, to the entire Marlies organization for that matter.
There is finally light at the end of the Maple Leafs tunnel, so to speak, a sense of positivity has taken place. The crowning achievement would be to have some of these prospects make the big club. We'll have to wait and see about that. Meantime, hope prevails...
There is finally light at the end of the Maple Leafs tunnel, so to speak, a sense of positivity has taken place. The crowning achievement would be to have some of these prospects make the big club. We'll have to wait and see about that. Meantime, hope prevails...
hockeyfan1 said:
No doubt about that. I was very pleased with the way Matt Frattin, Nazem Kadri, Ben Scrivens, Korbinian Holzer played. They along with Jake Gardiner definately have huge potential to get a roster spot at some point with the Leafs. Mark Fraser, Joe Colborne, Jerry D?Amigo are getting close, too. It is also good to have servicable veterens such as Mike Zigomanis or Phillipe Dupuis who can be called upon in case of injuries. It has been long time since the Leafs farm team had so many potential call-ups to offer.
Etiam Vultus
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LeafsInSeven said:
Baseball has a specific rule for protesting an error made by an umpire. In the Pine Tar incident, the Royals advised the umpire at the time of the that they were playing the remainder of the game under protest. The League Commissioner had the authority to reverse the decision made by the umpire and order the game replayed from that point. To the best of my knowledge, neither the AHL nor NHL have such a rule. Here is baseball's rule:
"4.19 PROTESTING GAMES. Each league shall adopt rules governing procedure for protesting a game, when a manager claims that an umpire's decision is in violation of these rules. No protest shall ever be permitted on judgment decisions by the umpire. In all protested games, the decision of the League President shall be final. Even if it is held that the protested decision violated the rules, no replay of the game will be ordered unless in the opinion of the League President the violation adversely affected the protesting team's chances of winning the game. Whenever a manager protests a game because of alleged misapplication of the rules the protest will not be recognized unless the umpires are notified at the time the play under protest occurs and before the next pitch is made or a runner is retired. A protest arising on a game ending play may be filed until 12 noon the following day with the League Office."
LeafsInSeven
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Etiam Vultus said:
I think that puts to rest that there was nothing that could be done for the Marlies. And I should correct one thing I said earlier: it wasn't the MLB Commissioner who upheld the Royals' protest, it was the AL president. So as you said it had nothing to do with the MLB Commissioner's far-reaching powers.
To win 43 of their last 46 hockey games is one heck of a run.
In '77, the Habs lost 10 games and tied 12 over 96 games (including playoffs). I think that's the best NHL record since expansion and the 80 or so game season.
The Marlies were up against one of the best if not, maybe the best AHL team ever. Add in the injuries and a most bizarre misfortune/bad call that may have cost them a game and the result isn't so bad.
Gardiner may have a had a tougher time in the final given what he was up against but I thought he looked pretty good in the previous rounds.
Yzerman (or his AHL subordinate) deserves some credit as 3/4s of that team was pulled together via draft (a couple), UFAs and trades in the last couple of years. A higher number of Marlies were draft picks by the Leafs.
In '77, the Habs lost 10 games and tied 12 over 96 games (including playoffs). I think that's the best NHL record since expansion and the 80 or so game season.
The Marlies were up against one of the best if not, maybe the best AHL team ever. Add in the injuries and a most bizarre misfortune/bad call that may have cost them a game and the result isn't so bad.
Gardiner may have a had a tougher time in the final given what he was up against but I thought he looked pretty good in the previous rounds.
Yzerman (or his AHL subordinate) deserves some credit as 3/4s of that team was pulled together via draft (a couple), UFAs and trades in the last couple of years. A higher number of Marlies were draft picks by the Leafs.
GhostofPotvin29
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And here's what Colborne alluded to a few weeks ago.
LuncheonMeat
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drummond said:
I'm curious whether Zigomanis will have a chance to stick with the Leafs with Carlyle behind the bench. It obviously wasn't happening with Wilson, but who knows with a more defensive-minded coach.
There should only be room for one of Steckel or Zigo, and I think Steckel has cemented his spot on the roster. With that said, Zigo said today he hopes management wants to bring him back next season, even if it's just to play for the Marlies.