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Matthews or BUST

Bullfrog said:
Nik the Trik said:
Kind of secretly want to see it because I think it would be hilarious: Edmonton

You're a sick man.

Seriously though, I really am interested in how that would go down. Would Edmonton really draft another forward? Would they take a OEL + the Coyotes pick deal? Could the league possibly not react by limiting the possibility of this ever happening again?

Moreover there's one thing I'm sort of specifically rooting for which is that whatever success Edmonton has in the future essentially be evidence that the current system of player distribution is broken.
 
Article pumping up Alexander Nylander:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/sports/hockey/a-hockey-bond-for-father-sons-and-honorary-cousin.html

Concludes like this:

ISS had Alexander at No. 4 in its April rankings.

What sets him apart from his peers is obvious, the Steelheads? Boyd said.

?Elite skill,? Boyd said. ?Puck-handling, shooting ? he?s tremendously skilled. World-class skill.?

Alexander, who, like his brother, represents Sweden in international competition, grew up playing hockey on North American ice with the Chicago Mission and Greenwich Blues minor hockey programs, so he has not had to adjust to the smaller ice like typical European prospects.

As Alexander prepares to take the next step in his hockey career, he knows where he needs to improve. ?Get a little faster, a little quicker ? things get a little quicker when you get to the next level,? he said.

With the Leafs most likely holding a lottery pick for the June draft, the brothers have allowed themselves to consider what it might be like to play on the same team for the first time.

?That would be insane, but we?ll have to wait and see if that happens,? William said.
 
Zee said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
McKeens pfffft. 

No Auston?  He's off to (gasp) Boston?  Then let me taste hot death, I solemnly chant.  April 30th is a good day to die.


In order of how pissed off I'd be if another team got first overall would be:

Habs
Oilers
Canucks
Sens
Buffalo
Boston
Calgary
Winnipeg
Carolina
Jersey
Columbus
Colorado

I'd rather have the Oilers win the draft lottery instead of any other Canadian team.  No way they'd be able to keep McDavid and Matthews down the road.  JMHO.

No way do I want to see the Sens, Habs, or Canucks get Mathews.  Just, no way!  I could live with Calgary or Winnipeg getting him, if I had to see another Canadian team get him over our Leafs.
 
Interview with Team Canada's Jakob Chyohrun, at the u18 Men's World Hockey Championships taking place in the U.S.

He is compared to the Panthers defenceman Aaron Ekblad.

Should the Leafs end up drafting him, they'll be getting not only a top ten but a promising pick nevertheless.


http://u18worlds2016.iihf.com/en/news/checking-in-with-chychrun/

 
hockeyfan1 said:
Interview with Team Canada's Jakob Chyohrun, at the u18 Men's World Hockey Championships taking place in the U.S.

He is compared to the Panthers defenceman Aaron Ekblad.

Should the Leafs end up drafting him, they'll be getting not only a top ten but a promising pick nevertheless.


http://u18worlds2016.iihf.com/en/news/checking-in-with-chychrun/

Not trying to sound like Don Cherry, however, whose the highest Canadian born player in this year's draft?

I'm not so concerned about drafting a European born player, however, these American born players may want to play at home in the long term.  Matthews in Phoenix, Chychrun in Florida?  Maybe not, but, who knows, they may want to play in the U.S.A., unless, they're overpaid to stay in Canada.
 
Al14 said:
I'm not so concerned about drafting a European born player, however, these American born players may want to play at home in the long term.  Matthews in Phoenix, Chychrun in Florida?  Maybe not, but, who knows, they may want to play in the U.S.A., unless, they're overpaid to stay in Canada.

Why is Chychrun or Matthews possibly wanting to play in Miami or Phoenix any more likely than a player from Western Canada or Quebec wanting to play closer to where they were born?
 
Nik the Trik said:
Al14 said:
I'm not so concerned about drafting a European born player, however, these American born players may want to play at home in the long term.  Matthews in Phoenix, Chychrun in Florida?  Maybe not, but, who knows, they may want to play in the U.S.A., unless, they're overpaid to stay in Canada.

Why is Chychrun or Matthews possibly wanting to play in Miami or Phoenix any more likely than a player from Western Canada or Quebec wanting to play closer to where they were born?

Players from Western Canada and Quebec are less likely to abandon a Canadian team.  JMHO.

The most recent examples of American born players leaving their team to play closer to home are Zach Parise and Ryan Suter.  These two left American based teams too.

Mathews might like the idea of being a hometown hero.  Chychrun too.  Who knows? 

I'm not saying this WILL happen, I'm just worried that it COULD happen.  What happens if our Leafs draft Mathews and he refuses to sign with us?
 
Al14 said:
What happens if our Leafs draft Mathews and he refuses to sign with us?

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or we trade him to Arizona for everything they can part with.

I think this concern is not a big deal. People with almost loyalty to the Leaf organization were already singing its praises last year in the middle of the tire fire. There are a disgusting number of perks to playing for the Leafs that other less financially well-off teams would struggle to reproduce.
 
Al14 said:
I'm not saying this WILL happen, I'm just worried that it COULD happen.

It could happen with any player born anywhere drafted by anybody. American players are no more likely to want to play close to home than Canadian players or any other player. You don't make decisions at the draft based on what might happen in 7 years. That's just insane.
 
bustaheims said:
Al14 said:
I'm not saying this WILL happen, I'm just worried that it COULD happen.

It could happen with any player born anywhere drafted by anybody. American players are no more likely to want to play close to home than Canadian players or any other player. You don't make decisions at the draft based on what might happen in 7 years. That's just insane.

Ok, I'll take your word on it! We won't get the Lindros treatment from the Matthews camp!  ;)
 
Al14 said:
Ok, I'll take your word on it! We won't get the Lindros treatment from the Matthews camp!  ;)

Well, it's not like Lindros held out to be closer to home. He just didn't want to play for the Nordiques/in Quebec.
 
Al14 said:
The most recent examples of American born players leaving their team to play closer to home are Zach Parise and Ryan Suter.  These two left American based teams too.

Minnesota also offered them insanely lucrative contracts (probably higher than any other team was offering I would guess).
 
I guess the only incentive to play in the U.S. is if you cannot stand the cold (which is highly unlikely), so play for one of the southern teams and probably tax and currency related issues
 
bustaheims said:
Al14 said:
Ok, I'll take your word on it! We won't get the Lindros treatment from the Matthews camp!  ;)

Well, it's not like Lindros held out to be closer to home. He just didn't want to play for the Nordiques/in Quebec.

Let's just say that Matthews chose to spurn the WHL's Everett Silvertips, which I think is located in Canada.  No?  :-\

That says a lot to me.
 
Al14 said:
Let's just say that Matthews chose to spurn the WHL's Everett Silvertips, which I think is located in Canada.  No?  :-\

That says a lot to me.

Everett is in Washington State (Google is your friend, you know), and Matthews didn't spurn them simply to not play in the WHL. By playing in Europe in his draft season, he made himself eligible to play in the AHL next season. He felt that it was important that the team who drafts him had that option. Also, you know, he got paid better playing in Switzerland than he would have in the WHL, while learning how to play against full-grown men, rather than teenagers at various levels of physical development. It was a tactical move made for the betterment of his career, nothing more.

Also, a lot of American born player spurn CHL teams to go the NCAA route. It's not unusual for them to choose the opportunity to pursue an education/play for a college team over major junior. It doesn't reflect their preferences in terms of where they'd prefer to play professionally.
 
bustaheims said:
Al14 said:
Let's just say that Matthews chose to spurn the WHL's Everett Silvertips, which I think is located in Canada.  No?  :-\

That says a lot to me.

Everett is in Washington State (Google is your friend, you know), and Matthews didn't spurn them simply to not play in the WHL. By playing in Europe in his draft season, he made himself eligible to play in the AHL next season. He felt that it was important that the team who drafts him had that option. Also, you know, he got paid better playing in Switzerland than he would have in the WHL, while learning how to play against full-grown men, rather than teenagers at various levels of physical development. It was a tactical move made for the betterment of his career, nothing more.

Did you know that Matthew Tkachuk spurned the US to play in the OHL?  Did you know that Max Jones also spurned the US?  Craziness.  Ollie Juolevi also hates Finland.
 
Al14 said:
The most recent examples of American born players leaving their team to play closer to home are Zach Parise and Ryan Suter.  These two left American based teams too.

And last summer they were joined by Austrian Thomas Vanek who signed with the Wild because that's where he played his college hockey. Players sign places for all sorts of reasons.

Al14 said:
Mathews might like the idea of being a hometown hero.  Chychrun too.  Who knows?

Uh huh, for something to be a strategy or a consideration the team should pay attention to it can't just be vaguely within the realm of possibility, it has to actually be based in likelihood. Matthews might spontaneously combust, Chychrun might decide he'd rather be a ballet dancer. Should the Leafs care that those things could happen?


 

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