OldTimeHockey
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I wonder what you get for a Randy Macho Man elbow to the head from the top turn buckle? 6?
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
No, it doesn't. It just means the league has the option of going longer than 5 games.
bustaheims
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Nik the Trik said:
It's rare that an in-person hearing results in less than 5 games, but, it has happened.
I think so as well but dam it's scary that so much damage can be done to the brain from such a little force. I imagine it must be real scary for the guys taking full force blows. I am not yet fully against fighting but it's coming. I have lost all interest in the trained gladiator(goon) bouts but still enjoy the heat of the moment battle between regular players.
Bullfrog
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Bates said:
There's where I'm at, and have been for a long time. I go even further though and would fully enjoy hockey with no fighting at all.
From a logical perspective, I just can't rationalize punching someone full force with bare fists in the context of a game. I mean, I'm not naive, I understand the emotional side, I understand the cheap shots, the competitiveness, etc. It's certainly more complicated than just saying, fighting shouldn't exist. But when you start look at other contact sports like basketball, football, and baseball even, you have to ask, why not?
I think the problem you may find is without some policing on the ice with your rougher 4th liner (you call them goon, heavy, what have you) there is more hacking and slashing in the game. When you have your Crosby, Kessel or Kane out injured because an opposing player crushed or slashed him so hard he has a broken bone(s) you may think different. Before you know it players start taking liberties on your star players because they know they don't have to answer the bell.
Imagine Gretzky out there without Semenko.
Love them or hate them they do have a roll in the game.
Imagine Gretzky out there without Semenko.
Love them or hate them they do have a roll in the game.
They should ban hitting.
After every clean body crushing hit, the player who initiated the hit, has to drop his gloves. Whether he is a fighter or not. This is what hockey has come to.
In the NFL, when a wide receiver gets hit after a catch up the middle, the hitter taunts him lol but nobody does anything. The next down is played usually right after.
Hockey, no. A big melee happens. Usually penalties are assessed. Someone gets hurt or someone has a bounty on his head.
After every clean body crushing hit, the player who initiated the hit, has to drop his gloves. Whether he is a fighter or not. This is what hockey has come to.
In the NFL, when a wide receiver gets hit after a catch up the middle, the hitter taunts him lol but nobody does anything. The next down is played usually right after.
Hockey, no. A big melee happens. Usually penalties are assessed. Someone gets hurt or someone has a bounty on his head.
Kin
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oldman said:
It certainly seems like I say this every time the subject comes up but that really has no basis in fact. Not only are there lots of hockey leagues without fighting where star players aren't regularly slashed without consequence but the idea that a fighter is necessary to protect your star players is not something that owes itself to hockey tradition. Before the 70's teams had players who could fight, sure, but they never had guys who could do nothing but.
OldTimeHockey
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Bullfrog said:
Yeah, in football, instead of fighting, they give you a prostate exam
Nik the Trik said:
Yeah, well I guess we look at it differently. If I was a Leaf fan and some unnamed player on the other team broke Kessel's arm with a two handed slash and the Leafs bench just looked on without any type of payback I wouldn't be very happy. Just giving that player a penalty/fine/suspension just doesn't cut it when my teams best player is gone for 4 weeks when they trying to get a playoff spot.
I was also a huge fan of '70's hockey. Those Rangers, Bruins, Flyers, Islanders games were great. The post 2005 calling a penalty every 2 minutes not so much.