NHL's 24-team Return to Play proposal

[OldTimeHockey]

That's 100% what I've been trying to say though I guess I haven't articulated it well.

I guess what I'm saying is that considering we live in a society where a vast amount of wealth is in the hands of people who don't care if we live or die so long as their stock portfolio keeps increasing in value but despite that people haven't risen up and Robespierred the lot of them you also shouldn't be surprised that people might be surprised by the depths to which the capitalist class can sink.

Judging by the crimes against humanity that have occurred since the beginning of time, all in the name of power and wealth, I'd call the surprise, naivety.

 

[Kin]

Judging by the crimes against humanity that have occurred since the beginning of time, all in the name of power and wealth, I'd call the surprise, naivety.

As much as I'm heartened by another warrior in the proletariat's war against the owners, I still think the point should get back to the fact that a handful of games played by middling teams won't add much revenue vs. a standard 16 team format. With TV money evenly split and the sort of logistical issues with involving more teams, I'd really question if it was even a net gain.

 

[Frank E]

Judging by the crimes against humanity that have occurred since the beginning of time, all in the name of power and wealth, I'd call the surprise, naivety.

As much as I'm heartened by another warrior in the proletariat's war against the owners, I still think the point should get back to the fact that a handful of games played by middling teams won't add much revenue vs. a standard 16 team format. With TV money evenly split and the sort of logistical issues with involving more teams, I'd really question if it was even a net gain.

I'd argue that even from the perspective of reinvigorating some fan bases, there'd be some benefit there. 

 

[OldTimeHockey]

Judging by the crimes against humanity that have occurred since the beginning of time, all in the name of power and wealth, I'd call the surprise, naivety.

As much as I'm heartened by another warrior in the proletariat's war against the owners, I still think the point should get back to the fact that a handful of games played by middling teams won't add much revenue vs. a standard 16 team format. With TV money evenly split and the sort of logistical issues with involving more teams, I'd really question if it was even a net gain.

Whether its a sound business decision or not remains to be seen. They didn't become "outrageously wealthy" with no business acumen, though I'm sure they've made some poor business decisions over the years.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/pr_nhl/status/1264936817067020288

 

[Kin]

Judging by the crimes against humanity that have occurred since the beginning of time, all in the name of power and wealth, I'd call the surprise, naivety.

As much as I'm heartened by another warrior in the proletariat's war against the owners, I still think the point should get back to the fact that a handful of games played by middling teams won't add much revenue vs. a standard 16 team format. With TV money evenly split and the sort of logistical issues with involving more teams, I'd really question if it was even a net gain.

Whether its a sound business decision or not remains to be seen. They didn't become "outrageously wealthy" with no business acumen, though I'm sure they've made some poor business decisions over the years.

Eugene Melnyk is a billionaire.

 

[Kin]

Judging by the crimes against humanity that have occurred since the beginning of time, all in the name of power and wealth, I'd call the surprise, naivety.

As much as I'm heartened by another warrior in the proletariat's war against the owners, I still think the point should get back to the fact that a handful of games played by middling teams won't add much revenue vs. a standard 16 team format. With TV money evenly split and the sort of logistical issues with involving more teams, I'd really question if it was even a net gain.

I'd argue that even from the perspective of reinvigorating some fan bases, there'd be some benefit there.

I'd argue that it's largely a zero-sum game. As much good as it will do a 24th place team to have a few extra games, it will do as much harm for a better team to get bounced from the playoffs early.

 

[Kin]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1265320246229032961

 

[Frank E]

If anyone can bring excitement to a press conference, it's Bettman.

 

[princedpw]

I concerned about them getting safety for players and staff figured out, and want to be sure they aren?t taking needed medical resources away from the local community.

When it comes to the actual format, I?m fine with it.  I?d probably be fine with any format that included the leafs. I am happy the leafs get to play a team that isn?t Boston or Tampa in something that resembles the playoffs. Best-of-5 series coming off a huge layoff like this will likely be pretty random so it is extremely likely we?ll see some undeserving teams (with regards to the season standings before the break) advance.  But I?ll be very glad there is some hockey of any kind at all to watch. So I?ll be happy until at least game three when the leafs are done.

 

[Kin]

The games will be held in two cities which won't be announced for a while but Toronto is one of the cities being considered.

 

[Kin]

So it'll be Toronto/Columbus for the first round.

 

[Bender]

The games will be held in two cities which won't be announced for a while but Toronto is one of the cities being considered.

Why you wouldn't just pick/shortlist the cities have that have shown to be handling the pandemic really well is just beyond me. Shockingly I do think Edmonton would be a good choice.

 

[bustaheims]

Why you wouldn't just pick/shortlist the cities have that have shown to be handling the pandemic really well is just beyond me. Shockingly I do think Edmonton would be a good choice.

They do have a shortlist, with lots of factors to consider. Considering, right now, all they have agreement on is the format - nothing about dates, location, even whether it's for sure happening - narrowing down significantly or announcing the cities on it is premature. A lot can (and will) change by the time the NHL is approaching the "good to go" phase.

 

[Kin]

Why you wouldn't just pick/shortlist the cities have that have shown to be handling the pandemic really well is just beyond me. Shockingly I do think Edmonton would be a good choice.

They do have a shortlist, with lots of factors to consider. Considering, right now, all they have agreement on is the format - nothing about dates, location, even whether it's for sure happening - narrowing down significantly or announcing the cities on it is premature. A lot can (and will) change by the time the NHL is approaching the "good to go" phase.

Yeah, considering that they were saying that the earliest they'd even start training camps is late June or early July so much could change by then that you'd need to have options in case things don't go according to plan.

Honestly, it wasn't that big an announcement. It was a format without a date or location and is still contingent on there not being a resurgence of the virus.

 

[Bender]

Why you wouldn't just pick/shortlist the cities have that have shown to be handling the pandemic really well is just beyond me. Shockingly I do think Edmonton would be a good choice.

They do have a shortlist, with lots of factors to consider. Considering, right now, all they have agreement on is the format - nothing about dates, location, even whether it's for sure happening - narrowing down significantly or announcing the cities on it is premature. A lot can (and will) change by the time the NHL is approaching the "good to go" phase.

Yeah, considering that they were saying that the earliest they'd even start training camps is late June or early July so much could change by then that you'd need to have options in case things don't go according to plan.

Honestly, it wasn't that big an announcement. It was a format without a date or location and is still contingent on there not being a resurgence of the virus.

I guess that's true. I'm mainly shocked at Toronto being considered, and as a local, I really don't want us to be.

 

[Kin]

I guess that's true. I'm mainly shocked at Toronto being considered, and as a local, I really don't want us to be.

What was interesting was 11 cities were named but only 3 were Eastern Conference cities, Toronto, Columbus and Pittsburgh. I wonder if the thinking is that because Toronto is hit hard now, it may be better in a month vs. cities without current problems.

Either way, I broadly agree. A hassle we don't need.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

Either way, I broadly agree. A hassle we don't need.

I'm not so sure of that. Unless this can be proven to somehow prove to be a detriment on the local economy or introduces significant risk, I'd be open to hearing the plan. As a hockey fan it makes little difference to me where the games are played, but if there's some job creation or economic benefits, I'd want to hear more.

 

[Kin]

Either way, I broadly agree. A hassle we don't need.

I'm not so sure of that. Unless this can be proven to somehow prove to be a detriment on the local economy or introduces significant risk, I'd be open to hearing the plan. As a hockey fan it makes little difference to me where the games are played, but if there's some job creation or economic benefits, I'd want to hear more.

You need to hear the plan beyond what we heard today? It'll be some hockey games played in empty stadiums over a month or two. Sports teams aren't big economic drivers in the best of situations and these are hardly the best of situations.

I said it's something we don't need. If you disagree with that, you kind of have to make a case for how we do need it.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/PeteBlackburn/status/1265420282459815937